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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

11 leaned Harris, 10 leaned Trump. And yet, 22 of them said Kamala won the debate, and only 2 of them (obviously "leans Trump") said Trump won.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/presidential-debate-voter-poll/?itid=hp-top-table-main_p001_f002

Participants were recruited from a spring survey conducted by The Post and the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University. In the week before the debate, 12 said they would probably vote for Harris, 10 said they would probably vote for Trump, and three said they were unlikely to vote for either.

24 isn't a very large poll, but this is an outstanding result. I'm pretty sure 91.6% Kamala vs 8.4% Trump is outside statistical error even with such a small sample size.


Kamala did good tonight people. Its a celebration night. But the next weeks its our job as debate watchers to meme and fuck up the Republican talking points and pain-points in their discussions.

Remember the pain points: "I have a concept of a plan", "Tim and I are gun owners, no one is taking your guns away", and the fucking nonsense Donald Trump did to defend himself when he invited the literal fucking Taliban to Camp. David.

Not everyone saw the debate. And even those who have seen the debate will have selective memory and forget about these moments. Its our job as the audience to remind people what they're trying to hard to forget. That Donald Trump is a weak loser and Kamala put him in his place tonight.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This tells me that 12% of all people are legally brain-dead.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago

Or knowingly lying to try and make Trump look like less of a loser, which I realized while writing this sentence means they're definitely still brain-dead.

Who are we kidding, they probably didn't even watch it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

You can fool some of the people all of the time.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So many women, and women of color lean Trump. That's beyond insane!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Crystal & Konnie!

Sounds a bit like Bonnie & Clyde.

Someone has to be the most stupid and least informed I guess.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Women who were raised in churches telling them they are lesser than men so shut up and do what their guys tell them too.

If you dig through there histories you will find many if not most are like this.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I read that, and it's a good sign although do wait a few days you polls. As someone who did statistical research professionally, do keep in mind that this is ultimately qualitative. It's better to read what they had to say than how they voted. We'll get a better idea in a few days, and even that will be somewhat flawed (political polls being low quality for the sake of speed).

I'd give you a length explanation about statistical methodology and validity, but I'd rather not to that unsolicited, lol.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I’d give you a length explanation about statistical methodology and validity, but I’d rather not to that unsolicited, lol.

I know how complex it is.

I'm approximately college-level statistics. But my sister is literally PH.d level in health-statistics (or more precisely: public health) and worked at the CDC and today works for FDA. Trust me, I get plenty of the advanced discussions / paradoxes / autocorrelation / etc. etc. stuff. So I know I'm out of my league in the overall matter, and that I'm oversimplifying.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Hehe, but you know, and that's why it's better not to go on a three page comment about it. In any case, I hope we get to hear more good news and polls. It makes doom scrolling less doomy.