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What a difference two-and-a-half months make.

It was just late June when Donald Trump and Joe Biden faced off in the first presidential debate of the season. As it turns out, thanks to his disastrous performance, it was Biden’s last presidential debate ever.

Tomorrow is the second presidential debate, but it might as well be the first. Kamala Harris will be making her debate debut as a presidential candidate. She and Trump have never faced off before. Indeed, the two have never even met because Trump skipped the 2021 inauguration festivities after his failed coup attempt.

Debates are all about expectations and spin. The expectation for the June debate was that Biden would show Trump up for the blowhard he is, which is why the Biden campaign pushed for a debate so early in the election cycle. We all know how that worked out.

However, it’s hard to imagine that Harris isn’t in a much better position going into the debate than Trump is. For one thing, Trump can’t stop himself from vomiting his inner dialogue, which rightly disgusts a lot of voters. He digresses, he rambles, he struggles to put a coherent thought together. Biden’s poor performance was the spectacle at the last debate. This time out Trump won’t have that foil.

At the same time, Harris is used to arguing her case. After all, she was a prosecutor, where her job was to convince a jury. She knows how to lay out her argument and draw people into it. She knows that this time the voting public is her jury, and she will argue accordingly.

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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 109 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

His cult will claim he won the debate, even if he shits his pants and starts talking like a baby.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"He shit his pants to make a point!"

"He says it like it really is, even if it's infantile!"

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Never forget that these are the exact kind of people that will shove a dildo up their ass live on stream to "own the libs"

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] 5too@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] anytimesoon@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

That was a very long article, so for anyone too lazy to click, here is the bit you're probably interested in:

But enough of all that vomit-inducing background on the Proud Boys. I’ll leave you with this. For all their hatred of marginalized groups and especially in consideration of all the vicious transphobic and homophobic attacks by its founder, Gavin McInnes, I’m still trying to figure out how he so readily, and more importantly – easily slid a big black dildo up his own a**, live on his internet talk show? McInnes deemed the moment as “owning the libs.”

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

I didn't need to know Trump's cup size.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 20 points 2 months ago
[–] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

The Mult will just go back to wearing diapers and carrying rattles at rallies and other events. Because, as they'd tell you, that's not weird at all. Now, tan suits, don't get them started.

[–] Cyyris@infosec.pub 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Exactly this.

My mother continually defends that jackass every time I try and bring up how unhinged and nonsensical he sounds - such as when rambling about sharks, or Gettysburg.

"Oh sweetie, he's just kidding! He likes to joke and kid around!"

No...No mom, he's a deranged lunatic who can barely string together two coherent sentences.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

for someone who "tells it like it is," he sure does need a lot of people to interpret when he's "taken out of context" or "joking" or "locker room talk" or "alternative fact-ing" or any other bullshit to explain away his saying the quiet part out loud

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I like presidents who are serious

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

This is the point that non trump people don’t grok.

His supporters don’t care.

His Multists (totally stealing that from now on) won’t be swayed by data or any facts. They won’t That 1/3 of the population would vote for him even if they were being rounded up for the camps.