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[–] The_v@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First paragraph had me laughing. Somebody has spent a lot of time in private industry and has gotten burned a few times.

As for #2 it depends on the age of the industry. Here is the life cycle of research driven industries as I see it.

Historically in research driven industries the foundations have been started in academia. Private companies start up relying on the universities research.

Money flows into the university systems from private companies and they start producing a lot PhD's in the field.

Next the private companies decide they can make more money doing the research in-house. They offer large sums of money to the established professors and get fresh grads at bargain prices.

Pretty soon most of the best and brightest are drained to private industry. The funding from private industry slows to a trickle and all that is left in academia is those with more social connections than ability.

For the next 30 years, private industry has great talent. Then the first first wave of PhD's retire. The new PhD's grads are trained by the social connections crowd.

That's when you start to see fun job descriptions posted like:

PhD + 2 years of experience, Masters + 5 years experience, Bachelor's + 8 years experience.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First paragraph had me laughing. Somebody has spent a lot of time in private industry and has gotten burned a few times.

Without regard for anything else you said, do you think your experience is more representative than mine?

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No - you missed my direction.

The paragraph is an overly polite way of writing to avoid any semblance of disparaging the other person. As mine was clearly written as a personal anecdote there is no need to qualify your remarks as non-derogatory.

Generally I see people develop those types of phrasing habits when they have negative experiences with misunderstanding in the past. Very common with many PhD's communicating with MBA's, sales or production teams. A little overly verbose but carefullly respectful to avoid conflict. It's a very good habit to have professionally but quite funny when out of context.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago

I think he meant ‘first’ as in top-most, the one with the preemptive disclaimer.