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The Brazilian president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, has said he hopes the crisis surrounding the social network X in Brazil might teach the world that “it isn’t obliged to put up with [Elon] Musk’s far-right free-for-all just because he is rich”.

Lula’s comments to the network CNN Brasil came after the supreme court voted unanimously on Monday to uphold the ban on X, which is now largely inaccessible in one of its biggest global markets.

The suspension was first ordered on Friday as a result of the company’s refusal to obey court orders requiring the removal of profiles accused of spreading disinformation and for the social network to name a local legal representative.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

By that logic musk would be president right now so doesnt make much sense. Its less about money and more about your family and friends. Almost all presidents of the United states have been descendants from the same british family. Including Obama yes.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was completely with you until the conspiracy theory about a single British family and Obama. JFC. 😂

Seriously though. You gotta have a credible source for something like that. Share that Fox News link already!

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thats not a secret my dude and its not even that crazy of a fact. Basically everyone is related if you just go back enough generations.

Almost all of them stem from families that came to america during colonial times.

Related: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Stock_Americans

Whats more interesting tho is this chart that doesnt go back quite as far. You can still see that being president is not going to happen unless you have connections

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Your own links indicate that the presidents came from separate families. Am l missing a key section that explains that they all came from the same family as you indicated?

If you dialed back the narrow specificity of your original claim, I would agree with your sentiment, as I think most here would. I feel like we may be debating a semantic here.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

He also said almost all of the presidents, then links to a genealogy that lists less than half.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're going to need to source that.

[–] Spot@startrek.website 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not OP but it got my brain curious. Found several different sites about it, here are 2 that seem fairly reputable. Apparently a 12yr old genealogy buff did an extensive search to map the presidents and came across some connections that kept them going till they found the chain of relatives for each one.

It doesn't seem like "put on your tin foil hat close-related", more "if you go back far enough most of us are kin in some way related". Though, the fact that the only one who is not related, was actually appointed instead of elected, does make it look a little weird.

https://www.geni.com/blog/look-whos-related-george-washington-and-all-the-presidents-25451.html

https://familypedia.fandom.com/wiki/Genealogical_relationships_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Spot@startrek.website 3 points 2 weeks ago

No prob Mr Maggoty. Figured I couldn't be the only one curious, why make more folks dive down that rabbit hole.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Musk becoming president is ~~very real possibility~~, average person becoming president is not unless miracles happen. While yes, money alone can't so easily get you power but it is requirement for it.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is constitutionally impossible for Musk to become president.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How so? Is it about birth place?

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, the US constitution requires that the president be at least 35 and a natural born citizen. There is more info here.