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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Pre-convention, ABC - Wash Post - Ipsos poll had Harris leading Trump 49% - 45% in a two person race.

This one has Harris 52% - 46%.

The gender gap is part of the convention bounce

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is this the media selling clicks and not facts again?

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

And r2o is spreading them. Typical day in the lemmyverse.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

GTFO with your nonsensical facts. The numbers didn't go up when they went up!

Edit: /joking of course

[–] whenyellowstonehasitsday@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

isn't a net 2% gain within the margin of error?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Both pre and post convention polls have MOE.

[–] whenyellowstonehasitsday@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

so if a net change between the two is within the margin of error, you can't state with confidence that it's an increase and not just random noise

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I suppose that confidence would need to have it's own margin of error. But it seems silly to say we can't say anything from such a significant difference.
I'd say the likelihood is still on the side that Harris is doing better than Trump.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What? I can say with reasonably certainty that if other polls match their results, which they do, then the MOE is meaningless. I can also say that since the same pollster and ABC took both polls, ABC is straight lying when they say there was no bounce. Their own data says otherwise.

[–] whenyellowstonehasitsday@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can say with reasonably certainty that if other polls match their results, which they do, then the MOE is meaningless

no that isn't how statistics works

Their own data says otherwise.

if you look at only their own data then no, there was a statistically negligible increase

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

FFS. You don't know how polls work. There are always small increases when you reach 50% The more important issue in these polls is that Trump has a ceiling of ~46%