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[Opinion / Technology] Telegram founder’s arrest is radical — if it’s a crime to build privacy tools, there will be no privacy [Chris Berg | Aug 29, 2024 | crikey.com.au] (www.crikey.com.au)

submitted 2 months ago by jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Pavel Durov's arrest suggests that the law enforcement dragnet is being widened from private financial transactions to private speech.

The arrest of the Telegram CEO Pavel Durov in France this week is extremely significant. It confirms that we are deep into the second crypto war, where governments are systematically seeking to prosecute developers of digital encryption tools because encryption frustrates state surveillance and control. While the first crypto war in the 1990s was led by the United States, this one is led jointly by the European Union — now its own regulatory superpower.

Durov, a former Russian, now French citizen, was arrested in Paris on Saturday, and has now been indicted. You can read the French accusations here. They include complicity in drug possession and sale, fraud, child pornography and money laundering. These are extremely serious crimes — but note that the charge is complicity, not participation. The meaning of that word “complicity” seems to be revealed by the last three charges: Telegram has been providing users a “cryptology tool” unauthorised by French regulators.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Telegram is not a privacy tool.

I mean, if he's convicted for a privacy tool, while it's not a privacy tool, we have a bit of ambiguity.

Arguably advertising something which is not a privacy tool as one is fraud. Maybe even phishing, since TG the company has in plaintext all the chat history of its users.

And this

The meaning of that word “complicity” seems to be revealed by the last three charges: Telegram has been providing users a “cryptology tool” unauthorised by French regulators.

in non-libertarian language means something similar, that is, that something not confirmed to be a privacy tool is being provided as a privacy tool.

I am a libertarian, but in this case they are consistent, if I'm reading this correctly. They are not abusing power, they are doing exactly what they are claiming to be doing.

Also maybe I'm just tired of Telegram. It's engaging, and I have AuDHD, which means lots of energy spent, and I can't drop it completely because work, and also some small communities are available as TG channels. Would be wonderful were they to move at least to WhatsApp, but it is what it is.

Still, ability to easily create a blog (what a TG channel really is for its users) reachable without bullshit is a niche in huge demand. LJ filled that at some point, Facebook did at another, TG does now.

Something like this is desperately needed. I'd say the solution should be complementary to Signal - that is, DMs and small groups should not be its thing. Neither should be privacy of huge chats and channels - they'd be public anyway. However, anonymity with means to counter spam should, so should be metadata of user activity.