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Government considering banning smoking in UK pub gardens and outdoor restaurants (www.bbc.com)

submitted 2 months ago by Mex@feddit.uk to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

An enclosed space is very different to outside. That's why you don't run your car indoors.

Should we ban pubs from having car parks? Since the exhaust fumes are quite toxic.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Should we ban [cars]

I mean, disregarding the feasibility, political polularity and media optics of it, for the continuation of earths ecosystem... probably yeah

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Should we ban pubs from having car parks? Since the exhaust fumes are quite toxic.

No, but we should ban the sale of new ICE cars (and in so doing begin a complete phase out) for those reasons and because they're damaging to the wider environment.

Oh, look we are.

[–] Technofrood@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

I don't run my car indoors because generally it doesn't fit through the door.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Lots of pubs don't have car parks though so what's your point?

Just so you understand, the reason that smoking outside should be banned is not because smoking is bad (although obviously objectively it is and you shouldn't do it) but smoking near me is bad, and I am occasionally outside at the same time as you are outside. If you want to go smoke in the middle of a field, be my guest. Your life choices should not affect me.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Everyone who chooses to drive in a city centre has a directionally similar impact (potentially bigger magnitude because vehicle traffic is pretty lethal). I don't think anyone disagrees with the principal, they just have different thresholds for personal freedom vs impact on those around you.

I think it's hard not to see a culture/class aspect to this when wood burners continue to be used without much limitation.