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Fox News did not air a second of the speeches from alienated GOP leaders and former Trump officials who endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris at this week’s Democratic National Convention.

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[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The point being made with their appearance is that Trump is so toxic and repulsive that defectors are actively coming out of the woodwork to endorse Harris. It's meant to appeal to independents and Republicans who see modern Trump and are increasingly off-put by him.

Now, they are all aggressively repulsive pieces of shit, sure. But I think we all agree that Trump is an even more aggressive piece of shit in comparison.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Appealing to right wing voters by adopting their policies never works.

These ex-Republicans are not reaching other Republicans at the DNC. They are speaking to Democrats and selling them on their policies.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They're not even ex-Republicans.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did you actually listen to any of their speeches?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

No as you can read in the article Fox News didn't air them /s

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But I think we all agree that Trump is an even more aggressive piece of shit in comparison.

How the hell is trump worse than bush era republicans or Mike fucking pence?

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bush era republicans and mike pence still believe in voting.

Trump wants to be a dictator.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

In a country where the government m is just 3 corporations in a trench coat, this is a meaningless distinction. None of these people give the slightest fuck about what the public thinks on any given issue and will work with the Democrats to undermine any public movement that tries to assert its will (see gaza protests which are just the latest example of this).

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Participating in oppressor Olympics means you don't actually hold any values.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

The real world is nuanced and complicated sometimes. The enemy of my enemy is my friend works here.

We at least need to be welcoming and accepting of defectors until we've beaten trump and reinforced our democracy so a threat like trump can't happen again.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Refusing to participate in anything and just letting bad things happen means you don't actually hold any values.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Refusing to participate in anything

What are you saying? That First Past The Post voting disenfranchises a huge portion of the electorate by artificially limiting the number of viable political parties?

The "totally supports democracy" democrats are probably all over correcting this issue in the states they control right?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Yup, FPTP is garbage, and the US is a dumpster fire third world country with a Gucci handbag.

And yet, doing nothing can result in things getting even worse, so someone shouldn't pretend to have some sort of moral superiority over doing nothing from stopping napalm being thrown on the fire because "it's already burning anyway."

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you support Genocide. Good to know, now just be honest with yourself.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"sitting around doing nothing does not make you morally superior"

"So you support genocide"

Well you sure sound like a rational person with reasonable arguments worth listening to...

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who said anything about doing nothing? There is a large amount you can do beside supporting genocide "because the world is complex", and doing nothing. One of those things is not voting for the parties that support genocide as a bare minimum.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

"There's lots of things you can do, one of those things is nothing."