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[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the government isn’t the only monster.

Very important. Otherwise you become a Libertarian or a Theocrat.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well I'm a libertarian because it takes into account all the other monsters. The goal of government is to maximize freedom. That doesnt' mean anarchy, because people are less free under anarchy than they are under properly-operating government.

IMO a government should be just powerful enough to prevent other governments from forming. Like, the purpose of an army in a democracy is to prevent other armies from coming to install a dictatorship over the people.

Or to mirror the common saying about guns: "The only way to stop a bad government with an army, is with a good government with an army".

But the other monsters are gangs, corporations, individuals. And a good government enforces rules that prevent those other monsters from taking away your freedom.

But yeah. Basic point is that libertarian => government's purpose is to maximize freedom

[–] Halferect@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Libertarians are anarchists with suits. I hope you are a edgy 16 year old because I think you got a lot to learn about how the government works and how society works

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Libertarians are anarchists with suits

You don’t see this as “edgy” at all? Like what value are we to obtain from this comment as readers?

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

The American libertarian party and anarchists in all of their flavors (minus an-caps) are wildly different. What brought you to that conclusion?

[–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get the sentiment, and agree with it in theory. But in practice, the libertarian party in America is going to give you corporate tyranny

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

We already have corporate tyranny. That’s why Lemmy exists.

But why do you think that about the American Libertarian party specifically?