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How do you make someone understand that being drafted by force and ordered to invade another country is not a good thing? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 months ago by index@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The government of ukraine and its politicians don't seem too different from these or russia, germany, france, italy or usa. In all these countries climate activists gets beaten and civil protests get repressed. All these countries support israel in its genocide and sell weapons to saudi arabia. In a way or another they are all tyrannical and not worth die burned alive in a trench for.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Really? You really think that Russian politicians (aka Putin since Russia isn't a democracy) are comparable to western nations?

Russia is one of the worst places to live in when it comes to rights such as freedom of speech and freedom of press. Western nations aren't perfect but they aren't Russia bad. Look at pretty much any metric except land area, and you will see that Russia fucking sucks to live in.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Really? You really think that Russian politicians (aka Putin since Russia isn’t a democracy) are comparable to western nations?

Yes don't you?

former pm of italy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Berlusconi

former pm of usa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

Russia is one of the worst places to live in when it comes to rights such as freedom of speech and freedom of press.

I would say saudi arabia it's worst

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_States%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_arms_deal

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do I need to link the Wikipedia page for Putin or do you get my point anyways?

I would say saudi arabia it's worst

I'm not sure who I think is the worst but I would never want to live in either country but I'm not sure why you linked to some arms deal when Saudi Arabia has done way worse things than buying some weapons. I'm leaning towards Russia being the worst though.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would you be fine with your country and its government selling weapons to putin? I don't know where you are from but there's a good chance your government sells weapon to saudi arabia or israel.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

That's very possible but I don't see how that's relevant.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Hey bud, they didn't say Russia was the worst. They said it was one of the worst. Ask dam near anyone not in Russia or China or NK and they will agree Trump is a garbage human and a garbage leader. We know this. This isn't up for discussion. Russia has had a shit government for like its entire history.