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    [–] endbringer93@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    It just works out of the box with broad driver and software compatibility.

    I have literally never had to hunt down some old ass drivers on 90s looking shitty websites on linux. Everything has pretty much just worked^tm^. I did have to do that just the other day for windows to get the shitass printer working. And you can't really install just the driver either. No, you have to install the whole bloatware suite because the provided standalone driver doesn't work because reasons.

    [–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I remember Nvidia putting their driver into GeForce Experience just before I stopped using Windows completely. It was taking the driver, adding a user interface on it, stuffed ads inside, required a Nvidia account and ran in the tray all the time. :)

    I assume it still works like that on windows. It's just filled to the brink with shit like that.

    [–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    You do realize you can just not install GFE, right?

    [–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Sure, but it's the culture of windows. Everything is corporate speak, filled with ads, and taking over the users computer. I got so sick of it all.

    Linux is amazing. It just gets out of the way and provides a fast smooth system that never slows down. Has an excellent fast command line and many great applications handled by a very fast and efficient package manager...I mean, it's just so much better that it's no going back.

    [–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

    "Gets out of the way"

    Yeah I will stop you right there buddy.

    [–] Digester@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Printers suck universally, no matter the OS. It's something everyone can agree on.

    I had the opposite experience, I couldn't find drivers on Linux for my old Audio Interface (M Audio) from the 2000s but I was able to find an installer for windows on some website and ran just fine on Windows 10. This isn't even the issue with old tech, if I can't find drivers (on either OS) for a 15 years old Audio interface, it's not the end of the world, I just have to accept it. What I find troublesome is sometimes getting modern hardware to work on Linux, especially something that was never designed to work on it.

    [–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I have literally never had to hunt down some old ass drivers on 90s looking shitty websites on linux

    I spent an hour trying to get my Broadcomm wifi card working on Debian. Gave up...

    Windows is a bit easier, you need to find the right package, but then it's just one "next next next install" away

    [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
    [–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    My BCM4352 uses wl, https://wiki.debian.org/wl, sadly didn't get it working. Fortunately, I don't need WiFi on this machine

    And for most people, terminal = no.

    [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    There are other ways than terminal. I just found it the easiest way to show the list of available drivers in Debian with a single command.

    Also I call bullshit on that "terminal = no". If people are capable of copy pasting URL they are capable of copying single line of text as well. Even if someone is afraid of terminal it provides a lot less ambiguity and should give it a shot. It doesn't require navigating through user interface which has tendency to change over time while following someone's instructions or images which might leave out the step or fail to include where to click, move, open then go to tab, 3rd row down, click open... etc. Besides nothing happens if you make a mistake. World doesn't end. Computer doesn't explode.

    [–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Windows has been GUI only for end users for 22 years by now...

    t doesn’t require navigating through user interface

    Yes because terminal syntax and binaries can't change either, right?

    [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Windows has not been GUI only. It also has terminal and configuration through it.

    [–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    "for end users"

    Yes, lets ignore that.