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Ford writes off $1.9bn as it cancels plans for all-electric large SUV in US (www.theguardian.com)
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Ford has written off $1.9bn as it cancelled plans for an all-electric large SUV in the US, opting to produce a hybrid version instead in the latest sign of western carmakers struggling to make profitable electric cars.

The US carmaker said on Wednesday that it would not be able to reach a profit on the electric SUV within a year, its measure of whether a new car is viable, citing the stiff competition from Chinese manufacturers. It will initially write off the cost of $400m (£300m) in tooling for the vehicle, plus another $1.5bn (£1.15bn) in extra costs in the future.

Ford also said it would delay the successor to its F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck until 2027, after initially targeting a launch next year.

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[–] Cort@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

~~So~~Do you have the plug in version of the fusion or the regular hybrid? The 20mi electric only range isn't great, but the extra oomph on the electric motor is really nice in the city.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Regular. I kick myself every day for not buying the Energi (the plug-in version). At the time, I didn't have anywhere to charge it. A year later, I bought a house where I could charge it easily.

The 20 mile range would cover all of my daily driving (though it's advertised as closer to 30 or 35 i thought)

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

35mpg on gas, 20mi electric range. On the electric only, it's more like 16-25 depending on weather/temp, with my high score of 30mi driving like a Granny in a 25mph zone.

I tried to get my mom to buy the energi version when she was looking at the CMAX(crossover fusion), she wanted more trunk space and got the regular hybrid. 3 years later I ended up buying the energi version (used) for a third of the price she paid new.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I get 45-55 in the hybrid (mostly city / suburbs) and about 42 highway/combined (during winter it's more like 36 mpg regardless). Does the extra battery weight reduce overall MPG that much? I don't drive like an old man, lol, but I do make heavy use of regen braking.

I've been looking to either trade in for or just buy an Energi model, but the closest I can find them is about 250 miles away. Sadly, haven't seen any closer than that since I bought this one.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Oh God no, 35mpg is just how the epa rates them. I usually get high 40s low 50s highway and 60ish in the city when the energi battery is empty. The only negative is lost trunk space, and even with the battery hump I can still fit my ebike in the back with the seats folded down.

When I bought it, I got lucky and found a low mileage one just off lease in my town. They even had a non energi with similar mileage, but it was only $500 cheaper. You might try carvana, they'll ship the car to a location near you, for a fee of course.

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

I absolutely love my fusion hybrid. Hoping it lasts 20 years

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My 2015 Energi with 90K miles only has ~12 miles worth of range left in the PHEV battery at full charge.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Does that one have lithium or NiMH for its traction battery? I can't remember what model year they switched. I'm thinking 2014 but I could be off.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Nope they're all NMC lithium chemistry afaik

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

Pretty sure it's not NiMH.