That's not possible either, you would be condemning the people of eastern ukraine to mass repression and possibly an extermination event. You have to keep in mind that this war began 8 years before Russia stepped in, Ukraine was fighting the people of Luhansk and Donetsk. That doesn't stop if Russia pulls out and Ukraine will them all. Do you support that?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Do you support that?

This is the guy who commented on Russians getting called "orcs" like this:

> Don’t insult Orcs, please.

[–] Awoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

So yeah he probably does support ethnically cleansing these regions of the "orcs" then. The ethnically Russian previously Ukrainian populations of Donetsk and Luhansk.

This is the problem we face with getting this war to stop. It is impossible now for Russia to step out of these regions without triggering a massacre.

[–] kujaw@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ukraine was fighting undercover Russians in Donetsk and Lugansk since 8 years.

[–] Awoo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

No this is just totally untrue. There was definitely some support given but the bulk of the secessionists were the people of Donetsk and Luhansk.

You have fallen for the trick that the Ukrainian government often pulls by calling ALL the people of Donetsk and Luhansk Russians. They no longer call them Ukrainians. And that's the problem, they have firmly stated their intention to kill all of them, they do not consider them Ukrainian anymore and taking back the land means cleansing it of the Russian ethnicity population.