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[–] aport@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this is a myopic view. The law in Netherlands used to require penetration to be considered rape, a definition that excludes the majority of male rape victims. It's a genuine concern that laws be gender neutral.

[–] dottedgreenline@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My view was with regards to the intent behind the initial comment. As the person I replied to asked.

[–] aport@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right, you assumed bad faith intentions based on zero context and made some pretty specific accusations. There are legitimate reasons to be concerned about gender neutral rape laws, especially in Europe.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

But .. isn't that what the original poster did? They could have simply looked up whether it was gender neutral or write about why they think it is great that it is gender neutral. Instead they already doubted that it was, assuming bad faith from the start.

Also, why is that a special problem in Europe? Or to what are you referring? In some countries, like UK, while it is not called rape sexual assault has the same maximum penalty (which is life in prison).

[–] dottedgreenline@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No that’s pretty much exactly what you’re saying.

[–] aport@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're saying that the other poster was not invoking any of those legitimate reasons. And you base that on... what exactly? His five other comments on Lemmy?

Jumping straight to the most uncharitable interpretation of someone's intent is a bad habit.

[–] dottedgreenline@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

A guess based on experience with similar toned poster's across social media. Don't pretend a majority of dudes talking like that aren't just out for some sort of women-hating catharsis. Weeding them out isn't my job, it's the poster's to be aware of the reality of online human rights discussion before all-lives'ing their point of view. However annoyed my tone was their initial post was also in bad faith.