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He’s had yet another horrible week. The old tricks aren’t working. Kamala Harris does not fear him. And it’s showing in the numbers.

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[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Overconfident is an understatement. I remember people thinking that Trump was the end of the Republican party, some people actually said that the party would be forced to disband after their crushing defeat in 2016.

Even many Democrats didn't like Hillary, but the idea of Trump winning was outright laughable to many. I think that combination of "I don't want to vote for her" and "there's no way she can lose" left a lot of people at home twiddling their thumbs instead of going out to vote.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Even putting that aside, the "bad" was also underestimated.

So Trump gets 4 years before we can vote him out, he's bad, but how bad could it be.

Folks didn't think about the number of supreme court justices that would go over.

Folks certainly didn't expect January 6th to go down the way it did and for there to be lingering aftermath of "if we win again, we will overtly rig the system to prevent losing again".

So I hope people view the stakes as higher and the GOP as more dangerous than people would have guessed in 2016.

[–] na_th_an@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know a lot of people who assumed she would win and later claimed their lack of voting is because of incorrect polls. Very frustrating to hear.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I heard many frustrating narratives after low t "won" in 2016. Things like "Democrats are just as bad" (so they voted for Stein or stayed at home), Hillary was gonna take all the gunz, didn't like her laugh/wouldn't want to have a beer with her, some fell for low t's ridiculous talk about what he was going to do for parents (tax credit and/or some child daycare).

Most exasperating of all were the types that were like "ACA is not perfect, therefore I'm gonna vote for the guy that will fix it". 🤦‍♂️

[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Still got the 5th most votes of any presidential candidate ever. (1st is Biden 2020 and 2nd is Trump 2020, 3rd is 08 Obama, 4th is 2012 Obama)