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[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Yeah totally should do that in an autocratic country, lets go with Russia and lets see how long it would take before the original poster is on their way to a Siberian gulag

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Hey, my house has a lot things that need repaired. I should probably bring up these issues with my family, and get to work on fixing them.

Oh, the house down the road is on fire? Guess I should be fine my house is only falling into disrepair.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Whataboutism isn't necessary

[–] cheddar@programming.dev 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's the "in Africa kids are starving and you're refusing to eat your broccoli" level of argument. Yes, it's bad in Russia, but that doesn't mean everything is perfect in their country. And that doesn't mean they shouldn't strive to make the situation better. Moreover, without any push back it can only get worse.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

Or in China, I'm sure they could at least say their concerns once before they're social credit is shit and they get disappeared.

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

If that is the bar we have to pass humanity isn't doing too well now is it? I myself would like to hold a modern country to even a little bit higher standards.

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fuck borders, everyone deserves freedom, not just people on my side of a line on the map

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

And they can vote for a better future. Last UK election we got a labour victory but 8% fewer people voted. Thats crazy.

Of topic, i agree with that, country borders are what making people xenophobic

[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While I do see your point, I think the main idea behind this post is that we're told that we live in civilized free western world, but once we rebel, speak ill or become in any way a 'threat' to people on top (while staying within the rules of society of course), that's when you get punished for it.

Something I'll give to autocratic countries is that even though you have no freedom, at least you're fully aware of it. In western countries, you have some freedom but are led to believe you actually have more, if not full, freedom.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Except only the last point really has anything to do with the government. It's freedom from government control, not freedom to do anything you want with no consequences.