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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Politicians don’t get how popular climate action is. That’s a problem. (grist.org)
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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The misperception gap widens when officials get more money from fossil fuel interests.

It's not that they "don't get" it.

It's that they're corrupt pieces of shit.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most, probably. There are some politicians that are too stupid or uneducated to understand climate change, and therefore buy into the bullshit their peers sling to the ignorant masses.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At this point the myths about climate change aren't scientific. They're political.

If Harris said she was putting a tax on carbon that only affects oil, gas, and coal companies, putting a trillion dollars into solar and wind per year, and banning new fossil fuel developments, she would win in a landslide. But the political myth is that voters don't want those things.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Right. It’s absolutely political. Although, that doesn’t change the fact that many citizens have bought in to the political claims that “Joe was gonna take our gas stoves” and “our grid can’t handle the electric cars.”

Some people legitimately don’t read anything scientific regarding climate change, and just accept the flood of corporate influenced lies from mainstream media.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Phrasing climate justice in a way that appeals to those rubes is easy.

My climate plan is going to make our energy grid robust enough to handle anything, it's going to free us from depending on foreign oil sources like Russia, and it's going to create a hundred thousand jobs for Americans. We are going to have such a strong solar energy industry we're gonna put China to shame. The whole world is going to want to buy our solar gear. USA! USA!

In fact, I created a community for exactly this kind of rhetoric. !patriotsforprogress@lemmy.ca. It's easy.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago

Yeah i was just thinking, its not that they ‘dint get it’ its that oil companies pay big bucks to buy political power….