If you argue like this, then the entire UN structure disappears, and the rule of all countries comes into question. Who says that Puerto Rico, Guam or Hawaii legally belong to the United States? Other countries have only accepted that because of the US throwing around its weight.

[+] pingveno@lemmy.ml -7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, I forgot the other thing. Decisions on admitting states to the UN have to go through the UN Security Council, where it is subject to a veto by.... drum roll... China! So it wouldn't even matter if every other country in the world considered Taiwan a separate country, it can't join the UN. Thus, that's a false metric.

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

You also forget The United States gets a veto making this reply add nothing to the debate. I can say the same thing here. "Oh I forgot one thing, Decision on admitting states to the UN have to fo through the UN security Council. where it is subject to a veto by... drum roll... the United States! so it would not even matter if every other country in the world considered Puerto Rico a separate country, it can't join the UN. Thus, that's a false metric."

On top of this, there are none member countries that the UN recognizes, like Vatican City (through the holy sea) and Palistine. We also have that by far and away the majority of countries do not recognize Chinese Tiapei as an independent nation, this includes Chinese Tiapei, they recognize themselves officially as part of China with there official capital Nanjing, territory including all of the south china sea, more so than the Peoples Republic of China claims, and Mongolia, and a few other places. The difference is Chinese Tiapei calls itself the "Republic of China" and says it is still the one true government, a statement that is as laughable as it is false. Most nations of the world see this statement by the ROC as the farce it is