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You picked up the bitchiness of my post but not the entire subtext. My point is when using the same quote we’re able came to quite different conclusions. One assuming the IT guy did know but merely likened it to “magic” in order to not explain it to a lay person, for whatever reason. Another assuming they don’t know a key concept and are therefore a complete failure.
Like even a trainee? A student? A failure in what way. It just feels like a weird put down. Presumably everyone has to learn it at some point as they begin their IT career. So the idea that they’re a failure until then and that DNS is the bar, is a peculiar world lens in my view.
Feelings aren’t really the point, the unnecessary extremes like labelling people “complete failures” is closer to it. You can give objective and concise criticism, which is more than capable of “hurting feelings” by the way, and not seem to be intentionally abrasive in doing so. Like the second quote you can surely see especially after the ellipsis, it's condescending right? Unless you believe we live in an age of zero qualifications, credentials or knowledge. If so, you understand that apologising for hurting feelings prior is clearly performative and how that is perceived.
Also, I’m disappointed to inform you but all of that “old fashion” stuff is very much still the case. Hell weren’t there articles on lemmy about older generations agreeing that younger generation face an absolutely ridiculous job market? The “must have 5 years experience in a 2 year old language” memes? I don’t think it’s an age issue, generational maybe. I’m not middle age but I’m definitely not that young either. It unfortunate how often inter-generational shit flinging occurs.
No yeah I actually agree with what you’re saying. And no of course I don’t mean a trainee or student. I think I may not have been thinking of the same scenario as you. OP was very difficult to follow I don’t know if it was translated or something. I’m thrilled to hear that training on the job is finally happening.
And yes I’m all too familiar with the concept I remember there was a job posting that required several years experience in a technology that was brand new. A few of my colleagues and I would spam them with applications and phone calls informing them of just how stupid they were being with that requirement. Someone didn’t have a clue what they were asking for. Hiring managers amirite.
I really don’t disagree with you at all.
I thought it might have been how the original post was structured.
Now that is a feel good story everyone can enjoy lmao, too right.