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Infamous $30 Logitech F710 called out in $50M lawsuit over Titan sub implosion (arstechnica.com)

submitted 3 months ago by Mrkawfee@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but if you're going to use a wireless controller, don't fucking skimp and get some cheapo device, at least buy a goddamned 1st party controller. Not that MS/Sony don't have lemons too, but Logitech controllers are like a half step from the crappy MadKatz controllers from my childhood.

This had to be a project costing somewhere in the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars, and they're trying to save $30 on an aftermarket controller?!? That's the literal embodiment of Penny Wise, pound foolish.

[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Actually that specific model of controller has been around for like 15-20 years and is pretty solid, especially the wired version the f310.

When I was in high-school our FRC team used them, and I remember the analog sticks usually lasted for quite a while considering they where getting hammered every night during practice season, and abused during competition. They got shipped, thrown, tossed around, and even got a little percussive maintenance once and a while.

Try that shit with a genuine Nintendo Joycon and get back to me.

The reason its cheap is the same reason it works so well. It really hasn't changed all that much since they introduced the design like 20 years ago. Its basically a ps2 controller with Xbox face-button glyphs, analog triggers, and a USB cable.

Honestly I think the only reason they updated it in 2010 was for xinput compatibility.

[–] bjorney@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's only assuming the sub was running windows, where Xbox controllers work out of the box. On Linux there are no first party drivers, and Bluetooth support on the 1/S controllers simply didn't exist at the time this happened. If it was an embedded system there would be no support whatsoever.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Huh what? Dual Shock 4 controllers are supported OOTB. With additional support via Userland software. In fact Sony published drivers for DS5. XBox original controllers just work. Therws plenty of first party support.

[–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

I haven't used dual shock so I can't speak to that, but as far as Xbox 1/S controllers, there is no 1st party support - literally all the drivers are from some non-MS affiliated GitHub page. 360 controllers required the xpad driver as well - that isn't 1st party support. Yes they work out of the box with steam if you are using a wired connection, but that's because it's going through steaminput (not 1st party either), and making the controls of the submarine dependent on being launched through steam is even more absurd. Gen 2 series 1/S controllers didn't work via Bluetooth for a long time after they (silently) launched on most LTS Linux OSs due to the kernel missing requisite BLE functionality