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I always considered marriage the epitome of feeling connected: you share a life with a partner and maybe even have children. Society at least acts like it is.

I have a coworker in his 40s, conservative and Christian, married to a woman holding a job, he is also employed and has a good job, all things considered and they have a child.

I don't see this person much but each time he sees me he approaches to basically complain and rant, mostly about democrats and foreigners, getting very emotional to the point of crying.

At first I hated him for spewing so much shit, but now I think I'm starting to pity him: he has a job, is married to a working woman, they have a child, they are homeowners... and he still feels angry and needs to rant to feel good. It's like he's angry at everything.

Which takes me to think, maybe there are things men need emotionally that women cannot provide, but I couldn't write a list.

What are some of these connections men need out of a marriage?

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[โ€“] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, it's entirely possible to be married and still feel alone.

However, ranting about democrats and foreigners tells me this is not about being married or not. The guy has problems and worries that have nothing to do with marriage.

Still, I can somewhat relate. Living in another country since many years (because reasons), and I don't feel at home. Happily married, with kids, all good. But I'm not home, y'know?

People here don't need me; they all hang out with their childhood friends they've known forever. I'm the new guy, even after all these years. That makes me feel lonely. And it has nothing to do with being married.

[โ€“] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Could be his loneliness leads him to seek out that kind of political thought, cause and effect aren't clearly established here. Isolation and other stressors have been known to drive people toward more reactionary conservative ideas.

But like others have said it could be his worldview leading to him feeling lonely and isolated, maybe threatened by changes in the world. It's not your responsibility to help him but I occasionally see people become less reactionary when I try to include them more, not directly contradict them but steer him in kind of an anti-corporations and wealth-inequality kind of way (or something like that) when they act like this. He might be trying to bond over a what he perceives as a shared patriotic struggle and become your friend?

Even if you don't agree 100% it'll probably be a small relief if he knows someone he trusts has concerns about the percieved injustices of the world, and letting him vent probably helps too. Traditional Christian masculinity can be kind of claustrophobic and I could see him talking with OP as trying to broaden his horizons, as paradoxical as that might seem.

Either way good luck to OP and I hope the coworker's outlook improves.