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[–] teft@lemmy.world 168 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (15 children)

Wait, so Obama is black because his father is black and now Harris isn't black even though her father is black? Do these idiots even hear themselves?

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 3 months ago (6 children)

That seems to be the general thrust, but I have seen a few not-so-bright sparks suggest that Jamaicans aren't really black.

I even saw one person suggest that the fact that she is descended from an Irish plantation owner means she can't be black. Which, gee, I wonder why a black person would be descended from a plantation owner?

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Are you sure it was an Irish plantation owner? Most of the time Irish people in the Caribbean were working on plantations, not owning them. From what I've read, the person in question was a British person from Antrim - which is on the island of Ireland, but is part of the UK and was itself "plantationed" by Britain.

It would be weird for example to refer to George Orwell as Indian, Louis Theroux as Singaporean or Duke Wellington as Irish - after all, "being born in a stable does not make one a horse" as the Duke put it when 'accused' of being Irish.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'm just repeating what the moron said there. I have no idea if she is actually is descended from an Irish plantation owner. But even if she was, that still doesn't make her not black. There's a lot of black people descended from white plantation owners, and it's not for good reasons that are beneficial to them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I doubt whoever is claiming that you're not black if you're descended from a white plantation owner and black people really cares whether or not it's genealogically accurate.

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