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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I love that we care what bigots think, but not what progressives think.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if progressives came out in bigger numbers than bigots, they'd have more of a say in how the country is run.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You'd rather court bigots than progressives right after you got a huge demonstration that progressives are willing to vote for a compromise candidate.

Centrists were against Harris running and used the exact same "the bigots we love and respect won't like her" argument.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Want to court bigots over progressives? No I wouldn't personally.

Sadly, politics isn't based upon who you want to be besties with, it's based on what you can convince a certain percentage of the electorate to vote for.

If progressives made up a larger portion if the electorate than bigots, they'd a better seat at the table.

All political parties favor the old not because of some trite respect for the elderly BS, they favor the old because they fucking vote in massive numbers, while the young simply don't.

Politicians need to be elected to enact policy. You want your group to be a bigger hand in policy? Make your group a bigger part of the electorate.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If progressives made up a larger portion if the electorate than bigots, they’d a better seat at the table.

Bigots don't vote for Democrats already. Courting them is a fool's errand.

All political parties favor the old not because of some trite respect for the elderly BS, they favor the old because they fucking vote in massive numbers, while the young simply don’t.

Young people are registering in droves right now because the party ignored the bigots. You just got a demonstration that addressing the concerns of young people works. Bigots were voting for Trump before and they're voting for Trump now. But since the party covets votes they're never going to get over votes they can get, we'll probably get some dopey Werther's Original enthusiast who thinks young people have it too easy.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So if progressives have so many votes to offer and are the key to gaining political power, why don't progressives dictate who the president/congress is?

If they're such an easy key to power, why aren't politicians on both sides of the isle getting in line to get progressive or young votes to vote for them?

Are all politicians and all the staticians running their campaigns stupid????

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

So if progressives have so many votes to offer and are the key to gaining political power, why don’t progressives dictate who the president/congress is?

Because donors do that.

If they’re such an easy key to power, why aren’t politicians on both sides of the isle getting in line to get progressive or young votes to vote for them?

Because donors don't want them to do that.

Are all politicians and all the staticians running their campaigns stupid???

gestures broadly at results

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately we still have to accommodate for moderate bigots when it comes to gender, race etc of candidates. Hopefully once Gen Z and Gen A really get into voting that race/gender intolerance for politicians won't be a factor any more.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

Bigots are given greater consideration than progressives.

It's like the party regrets the Civil Rights Act because of all the dixiecrats who jumped ship.