this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2024
374 points (96.5% liked)

politics

19107 readers
3082 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 84 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Absolute panic and disarray. I wonder who he would go with. Logically, it would have to be a woman or person of color to counter Harris, right? Would there be anyone who would boost him among pro-Palestinian voters, I wonder?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 65 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I don't think he wants a VP who will strengthen him at all. I think he's too prideful.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 91 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Vance wasn't picked to complement Trump; he was picked to compliment Trump.

(I wish I could say I was clever enough to have created that.)

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Thanks for allowing me to take credit.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 26 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I don't think he's beyond a "token DEI hire" who is willing to publicly fellate him if they boost his numbers.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 months ago

That would offer the projection that the GOP is so fond of exhibiting..

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

Maybe that psycho bitch that's running for secretary of state? She's lying like a cheap rug, practicing stolen valor, and breaking election laws.

She's perfect

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

fellate

"What's cuttin' up' a sunfish got to do with Trump?"

-- #maga

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They do eat sunfish don't they. They are so weird.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Goes well with possum and moonshine.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Wish Version Beetlejuice? Nah.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That would be Nikki Haley then.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

She burned all her good will with him by holding out so long. Being last to kiss the ring comes with consequences.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

But she's fellating even harder than the others to make up for it! That should count for something, shouldn't it?

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

It'd be kind of wonderful to see him forced to crawl back to her.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Lil Wayne for VP.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At this point, he'd blow Putin on live TV if meant he'd win. For him, he HAS to win or he's fucked. This isn't just an election, this is his get out of jail free card and not get shoved out of a window card.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We'll see. It's hardly as if he's never let his pride fuck his life up, he ran for president because Obama laughed at him for Chrissakes

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but now it's win or go to jail, or worse if he can't pay the loans.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The well done steaks have never been higher

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

Would there be anyone who would boost him among pro-Palestinian voters, I wonder?

I doubt it, when Trump is on the record as stating that Netanyahu's main problem is he isn't going fast enough.

Trump, who routinely touts his support of Israel more broadly, has reportedly said he supports Israel in its continued “war on terror” after the October 7 attack by Hamas. And like members of the Israeli government, he has cast doubt on the continued viability of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that has been a cornerstone of US policy for decades.

At times, however, he has also been critical of the Israeli campaign. He’s said Israel should “get it over with … get back to peace and stop killing people.” But he’s also emphasized they “have to have a victory” and implied that what’s really the issue is that Israel is “absolutely losing the PR war” and “losing its power” in Congress.

https://www.vox.com/politics/353037/trump-gaza-israel-protests-biden-election-2024

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Repubs have been campaigning on a platform of bigotry and hatred for decades so I don't see a woman or minority VP happening. Also Donald is personally a bigot and his eggshell ego could not handle the idea of a VP boosting him.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't know that you're wrong, but I'd point out he had Omarosa clinging to him at the beginning of his first term. He doesn't seem above using women or minorities when convenient to make himself look good. He seems to really want the Kanye and rap crowd to love him, as another example.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

True but Omarosa and Kanye's interactions with Donald are something far more palatable to the far-right racist Repubs. Donald being president at all is basically down to racists flipping out that a black person was allowed into such a prominent role as president.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He’s already made his commitments to Netanyahu public. He’d be trying to reclaim the people on the right that he’s lost, not woo voters from the left. I think Haley’s the most likely replacement.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

think Haley’s the most likely replacement.

Have you seen the reaction to Vance's wife? A person of color VP would mean an exodus from maga.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago

Exodus is probably overstating it unless they are worried Trump might not last the term. Maga is nothing if not willing to compromise any value to win.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well that would cover both the woman and color angle. I think you're right.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She’s also already created a small but loyal voter base that she’d bring with her, and would shore up the Christian vote.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How loyal are they to Haley? Are they loyal to Haley only because she stood in opposition (in some form) to Trump? If so, those voters go away if she's on the Trump ticket.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I’m under the impression it was mostly Christian Nationalism, but you may be right.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

loyal enough to have gone to her over trump but disloyal enough that their PAC backs Harris now.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It wouldn't necessarily need to be a PoC or woman but Vance was an extremely weak pick - he's basically just a little uncharismatic sychophant from an electorally unhelpful state. Trump would probably prefer to get a swing state candidate or someone who brings votes to the table.

Weirdly enough, that might actually be Nikki Haley since she captured the "reasonable" side of the party (her policy stances were a fucking train wreck especially on reproductive rights).

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nikki Haley is not a sychophant though. He learned that lesson with Pence. He wants someone who will worship him and follow his instructions.

Not some "free thinker".

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

He absolutely wants a sychophant... but not more than he wants presidential immunity and it's not clear if the Supreme Court's bizarre rulings are enough to give it to him without him being elected... right now they're trying but it's pretty clear Democrats want to overturn that.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The VP has to be picked by Trump for loyalty first. The person in the position has the ability to Amendment 25 him right out of office on day one. No way he picks Haley for that.

For the same reason, it's surprising he even picked Vance. It may have only happened because Musk and Thiel told Trump to. Then Musk backs out of his funding pledge, and suddenly it's being floated to ditch Vance.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He’s gonna replace pour man’s Donald Junior with actual Donald Junior.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I could actually see him doing this, and it would just make things even worse for him lmao

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Trump would never pick a woman