Do you remember the Boeing CEO boasting about how the dragon was never going to get to the ISS first? Starliner had a head start in development, and they thought they were nearly ready. So he makes a post on Twitter saying they'd get there first. Musk replies "great, do it".

I miss the terse and sane Elon Musk. Somehow this crazy Musk is less fun.

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Only Musk I miss is the one from the future who is dead. He has contributed nothing to society other than stealing wealth from the masses.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, that's absolutely not true. The world got electric cars much sooner than we would have otherwise and I'm sure that has made a meaningful difference for global CO2 emissions. And along with a lot of talented engineers, he's absolutely revolutionized the rocket industry, doing what everyone thought was literally impossible by landing rockets and reusing them. If he can follow up the falcon 9 success with a starship that works and actually is 100% usable, that could well be the most influential innovation in human history, (no exaggeration).

He's still a dick, an addict, and a thoroughly problematic human being. But he's done some truly great things for the world, more than I have certainly.

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

he didn’t do any of that, he just bought some companies that were already doing that. Surprised you didnt add “he revolutionized short form social media by creating twitter” to the list of things he has absolutely not contributed anything toward other than constantly sabotaging the companies he owns becuase he’s a miscreant freak.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He was the lead engineer during the beginning of spaceX, he was actively involved in that. Also, he put his personal wealth into funding those last falcon 1 launch attempts, the company was completely out of money. If he hadn't been there, the company never could have made orbit, they would have gone bust.

As for Tesla, nobody can say what would have happened if musk had never become involved with the company. Neither of us can see those alternate timelines. But what I can say is that Tesla was the first new car company in the US (electric or otherwise) in over 50 years. That is to say, people have tried and failed, and this company was the first to succeed in a long time. So it certainly wasn't a guarantee that anyone was going to push the big auto manufacturers to compete in the electric car market. And whatever it was that made it happen this time, it was Musk at the helm.

Obviously, Twitter was garbage before he bought it. Yes, it's much worse now, but it was never good. I'm really not sure the world has lost anything. Besides, the whole Twitter thing was really after he started to go nuts, that's the crazy Musk that I've had enough of.

And again, I don't disagree that the man is a huge problem today I said that right at the start. But to say he's never done anything of value, well that's ignoring reality, which is Trump level crazy.

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You honestly think he designed rockets?

Any tech that was brought to market by Tesla or SpaceX would’ve happened regardless of Musk. He just took credit for it and people like you spread propaganda that he actually contributed work toward it.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Like I said, living outside of reality is Trump level crazy. Or plain ignorance. I wouldn't blame you for not knowing the whole story.

And no, nobody was landing rockets, that would not have just "happened".