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[–] Rambomst@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I have kind of just been using ChatGPT 4o as my search engine, it's been working pretty well.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what the energy/environmental impact is vs a traditional search.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Completely terrible. An AI "search" takes as much electricity as hundreds to thousands of normal searches.

'AI" is TERRIBLE for climate change because they're increasing demand for electricity so much that they're keeping coal plants going that were even scheduled for decomissioning because they use A LOT of power.

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been trying to find a search engine that doesn’t use AI for this very reason, but with little luck. Any suggestions?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't DuckDuckGo not have AI?

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Not to my understanding?

[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This can be resolved by building the data centers to cold countries like here in Finland. Servers are very good at converting electricity to heat, and the heat can be used to heat homes.

Microsoft Azure data center in Espoo is going to heat up 60% of the city's district heating network.

Also the electricity here in Finland is one of the cleanest, like in all Nordics (hydro, wind, nuclear)

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 months ago

The electricity would be better spent on heat pumps. Computers convert 100% of their electricity into heat. Heat pumps convert 200-400% of their electricity into heat.

(I'm being lose with my wording for brevity's sake)

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean it works ok for things that aren't important. But you never really can have too much faith in the results because it will state blatantly incorrect answers with great certainty.

At least Perplexity links to the sources

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

Same (in some situations). I feel like searching for "how to do X?", where X is a simple problem or knowledge, more often than not the classic search results are linking to articles that are way too long and talk around the solution way too much before actually getting to it (if at all).

Sure, I don't trust the AI responses for critical stuff, but I honestly rarely trust a random blog article either.

[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I used perplexity pretty exclusively for a while. Especially for work. Both have their place and use cases but when I’m looking for something truly specific or nuanced, it’s DDG and a manual search.