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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The 1968 Democratic convention choose Hubert Humphrey. He did not receive most of the primary votes.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 20 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I would hope that the DNC learned their fuckin lesson in 1968 and 2016, and would be okay with the will of the people and putting up the most popular person, but I'm going to go ahead and assume that that is still too much to ask. 😕

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Problem is, there is zero time for another primary to gauge who is the general public currently wants the most at this moment in time. All we really have is the last general election as the last real moment that the general public picked their heads of the DNC. Since Biden / Harris are incumbents, and challenging a presidential incumbent is rare AF, they didn’t really have a primary.

IMHO, if you want to respect the voters, you kind of need to pretend that Biden has been incapacitated and Harris is being called up from his bench.

And on top of that, she’s already on the ballots, already has the war chest of campaign cash, etc. Strategically, she is going to have the best shot. State GOP folks will have a hard time blocking her from ballot, and she can immediately start a well funded ground campaign. No one else can really do that.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah. And she polls better than literally everyone else who isn’t a weird and nonsensical spoiler insertion. So you could say that’s as close to a primary as we will get.

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So are you suggesting Dean Phillips (the biggest non-Biden vote getter in the primary) or Jason Palmer (the only person other than Biden to win a primary, with American Samoa) should be the nominee?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 4 months ago
[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

They'll listen to their wealthiest donors before the rest of us.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I hope the lesson they learn this time is to have a primary EVERY time. Don’t just assume the incumbent is the candidate.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden got more votes than Bernie.

And Bernie did better in cuacus states, where the DNC would have been able to weild more influence.

[–] Crismus@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Everyone else transferred their votes to Biden after Super Tuesday in 2020 so that Bernie wouldn't win. Biden was middle of the pack or lower before all the other Primary Candidates conceded to Biden.

That way the media could say Biden got more primary votes, because Bernie wasn't willing to play along with the DNC control over policy.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Little matter of Bobby Kennedy getting shot might have played a part in that.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Bingo. Nonetheless, in 1968 the convention chose the candidate.