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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago (4 children)

How would you even see this working with 106 days to election, and a month to the convention? There's not enough time for anything to really happen but Harris taking the ticket. Any other alternative will detract from votes, and they know that. It's going to be Harris.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, you might be right. There is a front page article that talks about how exactly that used to be the way that we did it. And I do very much like the idea of having a genuine marketplace of candidates. We already paid the heavy heavy fuckin price of taking the incumbent away, we might as well do everything possible to make sure the replacement is going to be the definitely strongest candidate. But you may have a point.

Harris is fine. She's a functional adult and doesn't want to destroy the world, and she's apparently sharp on her feet. So three points in her favor. I'm slightly worried about "fine" being the only real metric, but sure... I mean I won't say you are certainly wrong about your way of looking at it.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

She will absolutely destroy Trump in the press, any PR talking points, and debates. The contrast will make him look weak and feeble, which really was what the RNC was going to try and do with Biden. This demolishes whatever lame and taunted campaign they had planned to run, where Harris can literally just rebrand all of Biden's campaign materials. It's a decent plan. She needs an absolutely mind meltingly popular VP pick though, because Trump doesn't have that.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I fuckin hope so man.

The imagination of Trump in the debate with Harris with her experience as a prosecutor and him getting extra salty and unhinged about it because it's a woman making him look stupid is definitely at least a little bit appealing.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just hope corporate news has the good graces to not shit all over her for at least 24 hours.

Ha ha. Ha ha ha.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

It's certainly a concern.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but HARD disagree. Trump will always win the debates to Trumpers. As a conservative, I unfortunately have to interact with Trumpers. They thought he won because he talked over Biden. Talking points? Doesn't matter. Logic? Doesn't matter. He just has to "shut down" Biden by not letting him speak and talking louder. In their eyes, Harris will get absolutely destroyed

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I don't think anyone is really caring about his die-hard cult members. I'm specifically talking about people who are/were undecided somehow. She will make him look weak, idiotic, and just flat shut him down on his bullshitting and lies. He's afraid of her, and showing that on a national stage will remind people what he really is. Guarantee to see a shift in polling if they debate, which he's trying to worm his way out of now because he's afraid of her.

[–] techwooded@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know, it could probably work, America is the outlier for their election seasons. UK elections are held 5-6 weeks after Parliament is dissolved. The 2022 French Presidential election was held less than 2 weeks after the polling date was announced. Comparatively, the USA’s 7 months to convention, 10 months to election is a lifetime. You can do loads in 106 days

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As an American, let me assure you that having campaign seasons of something between 7 months and 3 years is absolutely sanity-destroying. It’s fucking awful and I hate it.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This as well ^^

There is such a thing as political exhaustion, and the US gets this kind of bullshit inflicted on them CONSTANTLY.

It is also pretty crucial to acknowledge that the general mental/outrage fatigue is at this point entirely intentional and by-design, as far as I can tell.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

106 days? Both England and France held full elections in less than that amount of time. I knew of Biden's withdrawal 20mins after it happened. Trump getting shot at a week ago is already old news.

You can do A LOT of politics, especially in the US of A, in 106 days.

If Kamala is the choice she better come out swinging and laugh Trump out of this race. If she isn't ready then I want someone else. Trump is an old liar who fumbles constantly and holds garbage opinions. I want to see him shut the hell up.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago

People were saying the same shit about Biden dropping out up to the minute he did it.