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Bas Schouten: "If you are 'completely anti-ads' (i.e. even if their implementation is private), you probably use an ad blocker. So are unaffected by this." - Mastodon (mastodon.social)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

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Just wanted to surface this comment, because not enough people are cognizant of the fact that adblockers do their job and prevent any PPA submissions.

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[–] Undertaker@feddit.org 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

"Privacy features, in Firefox, are not meant to be opt-in. " But anti privacy features and user influencing features are. So what's the point here?

[–] refalo@programming.dev 14 points 3 months ago

I think they believe it's not anti-privacy, but a lesser of two evils.

Mozilla/Firefox simply can't exist without ads. Google same thing. So why would they actively contribute to their own demise by declaring war on ads?

Instead they chose a compromise that still allows ads but in a more responsible/private way. And you can still turn it off. Sure it should have been opt-in, but I think most people wouldn't use it then and we're back to the same problems.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

But it's a privacy feature? 🤷

I mean sure, it's easy to read this and go immediate full-on "someone suggested another distroy than arch"-nuclear. But as someone else said, and what is essentially the linked post, this is a feature for those that do not run adblockers.

If you run an adblocker, this feature does nothing for you. Whether on or off. It could not matter any less. You don't interact with ads, so there is no ad interaction to track.

But if you don't run an adblocker - and let's be real here, that's going to be the vast majority of even Firefox users probably - then this is how advertising ought to work, so it's a privacy-enhancing feature. Yes, right now it doesn't do much. But were it opt-in, it could not do much. Not now, not ever.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago

Tell me, what data does an advertiser know about me if I have enabled this feature? You can assume that I don't run any tracking protection, no ad blocker, and all telemetry enabled.