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Biden says it’s ‘time to outlaw’ AR-15 after Trump assassination attempt
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Sounds like a similar argument to how christofascists justify owning military weapons. It's very disturbing from a European point of view.
The countries with nukes get permanent seats on the UN Security Council.
Maybe once the US has been around for a few more centuries it'll be different. in the meantime, if the crazies are armed you should be too.
That's military not civilians, it seems justified as long as there are authoritarian regimes with imperialist ideas. Completely unrelated to civilians having military weapons. Unless you're saying civilians should have nukes too.
Unarmed protest will not stop putin
...the military will.
Will they though? Last I checked, the EU mostly underfunds their military. They dont even meet nato obligations
This is rapidly changing, all thanks to Putin.
Seems Ukrainian stopped it pretty well without having civilians carrying military weapons outside of military duty.
Not true at all. Ukraine was handing out AKs like candy to any citizen willing to fight for several days before the invasion.
regardless of whether this statement is true or not, it would be because they were expecting and preparing themselves for military invasion.
also there was armed conflict already in progress before start of the "3 day special operation".
so completely true after all... 😆
No, you said Ukraine fought Russia back without arming their civilian populace, then tried to walk it back by saying they were expecting an invasion. Yeah, no kidding. But the fact of the matter is that they did exactly that. They handed out full auto rifles and held bomb making classes for the public. Ordinary people fought back, and a rifle behind every bush was indeed critical to pushing Russia back.
Yes, it is absolutely true that Ukraine fought Russia by having ordinary citizens fighting back with military weapons.
i couldn't have tried to walk anything back for two reasons:
and
that is how it works. you are a civilian, until you are given weapons and task to do, such as fight invading armed forces.
how long you were on a army's payroll before is just splitting hair. different para-military and guerilla forces are part of the armed conflicts all over the world.
and from the context of this discussion it is pretty clear that "civilians carrying military weapons outside of military duty" refers to some fucking meal team six redneck from some confederate state who only ever saw a war in television and carries his assault rifle to walmart to protect himself against people laughing at his small dick, not people fighting in actual war.
so thanks for playing darling, better luck next time.
No, they were given assault rifles, while not being inducted into the military. That makes them civilians in every sense of the word, and not in the military. Civilians have always fought in wars. That doesn't make them part of the military.
you want to lecture someone on "not considering what i said"? clown
The hell are you talking about? You keep saying that civilians given rifles are suddenly part of the military, but they are NOT.
I asked you what I should do if white supremacists start hanging minorities again, and you completely ignored the question because you've got nothing, and then I guess you directed me here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramilitary
white supremacist shouldn't have access to automatic weapons (or preferably any weapons), which is exactly what this debate is about.
And that is not an answer to the question I asked.
Paramilitary is not military.
I asked you, what I should do, if white supremacists, begin lynching minorities. Again. What is your solution to this problem? Not what is your pipe dream for reality?
i suggest you take a deep breath and try to decide what you are arguing, because at this point i seriously doubt you know that, you are just in opposition to anything.
do you seriously believe that more automatic weapons is going to fix the problem?
Because they were expecting a foreign military invasion, it still is military duty.
Nope. A civilian fighting in a war does not make them part of the military. It makes them a civilian fighting in a war.
Seeing how 2A it almost took down a fascist it's getting hard to argue against it.
If you think arming yourself because there are organized fascists in the country is a similar argument to fascists wanting guns to do fascism you're a fascist and nothing less.
Ah, didn't know you would consider most of EU and the developed world to be fascist, thanks for the insult.
You would have been the worst kind of fence sitter right up until the germans boarded in your house. You are a fascist.