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[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I encourage you to put yourself in someone else's shoes. The "joke" is there's this archetypal character who is often named Karen who is entitled and makes unreasonable demands. If your name is Karen, that sucks. It's not about egocentrism, the villain in this joke is literally named Karen. Imagine you couldn't go through life and raise a concern about any issue because someone would be like "har har, you're being a real Karen". Even if it's a joke, when you hear it a thousand times that gets old and it sucks.

I have some friends who named their daughter Alexa before Amazon released the virtual assistant with the same name. Kids at school tease her. She can't go by Alexa, she has to go by Lex. Again, I encourage you to imagine yourself in someone else's place.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It IS about ego-centrism to hear a comment about some OTHER person with your name, and go, "ugh, this will reflect poorly on me".

Yea, it will if you're surrounded by morons that don't know you're a different person...

Literally, get over yourself. Alexa is far more understandable, but the same thing applies: It's only a problem when you're surrounded by morons. Children are morons. Stop trying to regulate what adults do simply because morons exist.

Do better. Set a better example than some troglodyte that gets caught up in every zeitgeist.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You're right, we shouldn't regulate this type of speech. I'm not proposing we outlaw calling someone "a Karen." I'm arguing that people who care about how others feel should reconsider this type of joke.

You mentioned that this sort of thing is only a problem if you're surrounded by morons. Let's be generous and call them people who don't see things your way. Isn't that all of life? I gave the example of a child named Alexa because it's a literal real life example. It is a thing that happens, not a hypothetical. I have a kind and quiet family member named Karen, and it's a nuisance in her life.

You mentioned egocentrism. Isn't it egocentric to think "I will say whatever I want and if that makes someone else feel bad who cares?" I try to live my life in a way where I'm not knowingly causing other people discomfort. Sometimes that's not possible for good reason. We can still try.

[–] lidd1ejimmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

I love your responses and I totally agree about putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Those who dare to call others inappropriate for things are the same ones that start movements like Karen and ruin peoples lives to gain more views and followers on there platforms...

Though the things I say are offensive and I'm not allowed to say them anymore in private... (example)

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, I meant what I said. Surrounded by morons.

What you need to realize is... Most humans are morons. Not caring what others think can be motivated by many things, ego only being one of them.

I do not speak of being offensive, but people taking offense at stupid things like, "karen". Stop being an easily offended moron. It goes A LOT further than trying to walk on egg shells.