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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I feel like Mozilla could have been what NextCloud is today. Totally free, open source, and offering a vast offering of office apps, with paid hosted versions. It could be all neatly integrated into Firefox, and you would pay a premium to use them without self hosting. The only thing they did was create Firefox VPN, and the only reason most people use VPNs is because of scammy marketing.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago

Yes.. Similarly, there are lots of browsers that failed too.. KHTML for instance is what Chrome and safari was based off..

They have a huge number of projects they tried.. Including their own mobile phone OS which they were actively shipping (it's a pity it didn't survive, would have been nice to have a 3rd OS)

It's really a risk / time payoff here. The reality is, when you see projects like this, there are 20 more which fail.

When you have limited resources, things like Firefox VPN actually make sense, because its low risk (there's a lot of competitors, but its fast to implement).

An office suite takes a huge amount of resources, and is a lot of work.

VPN's do have their uses. But, I agree.. 99% of it is scum marketing

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Totally free, open source, and offering a vast offering of office apps, with paid hosted versions.

When Mozilla was founded the idea of hosted webapps didn't exist. Quite the frankly web standards didn't yet exist to allow such a thing to exist. Those were the days when you'd use Flash, Shockwave or Silverlight just to view media content on the web.

But I do agree, they could be investing right now into feature rich hosted services, but they've only half-assed any paid services they've tried to integrate and then dropped them because they couldn't get enough users to make it worth continuing the effort (mostly due to the half-assed effort they put in to start with)

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago

Exactly because Mozilla was around to see the Internet grow and mature they should have been fit to create such a suite.