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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You might have been too preoccupied with your little snarky clapping, so let me say it again-

It’s the eleventh hour. It’s not happening. We missed out chance when everyone slept for the past four years. It’s Biden, or lose American democracy now. Those are the choices.

If you think Biden can’t win, and decide not to vote because of this- then it’s pretty much a willfully self-fulfilled prophecy.

It’s too fucking late to replace him. We go with what he have and try and keep America from belonging to Trump.Inc.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Dude. We’re not even past the Convention yet. It’s not the eleventh hour. People saying the same shit as you, refused to have this conversation in the primary, now it’s too late? When should we have it? After Trump wins because Biden didn’t campaign in Michigan and PA?

Did I ever say I wouldn’t vote?

No. I did not. Have never told any one to not vote? No. I have not.

Have I said Biden is a terrible candidate? Absolutely. Because I believe it to be so, with the same conviction I felt Hillary was going to lose.

You have yet to actually address any concerns, though, instead you’re telling me how to vote and implying I’m voting for fascism if I don’t comply with your directives.

Guess what. That’s how you convince people not to vote. That’s how you convince people “both sides” and that’s how you lose elections.

This kind of rhetoric? It’s why Hillary lost. Her hubris lead her (and her team) to be very much like this. There was other stuff, but it ultimately came down to arrogance.