politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
view the rest of the comments
That's all I care about.
Why?
The general won't be head to head.
It's going to have RFK jr's brain worm, just like this poll.
No, the general mostly will be head to head. Because RFK isn't even on the ballot in most states.
Can you provide a single state where the only two options are going to be Biden or trump then?
Because I don't believe there's a single one that's actually "head to head" where the small part of this poll you care about would ever matter.
Moving goalposts so soon? You don't seem to care about RFK any more.
The only 3rd party candidates in that poll with over 2% are RFK and West. In most states, neither are on the ballot. So the relevant poll results are head to head.
But keep trying to twist the results to explain Why This Is Bad News For Biden. Maybe you'll land a job at the NYT.
Why would I?
You said you only care about the head to head poll numbers.
I want to know a single state where the election is actually head to head.
Can you not do that?
I only care about the head to head numbers because the alternative includes candidates who most people can't vote for.
The main third party candidates are in the majority of battleground states tho...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/politics/presidential-candidates-third-party-independent.html
The states that actually matter.
What aren't you understanding about this?
I mean. That's not even all the states, they have months to get signatures to increase that
And moving forward with Biden is helping them get signatures.
There is just sooooo much you're not thinking of. And you seem actively resistant to learning about any of it.
I understand that your preferred poll includes candidates who most people can't vote for.
If I saw a poll where the choices were Biden, Trump, and Taylor Swift then I wouldn't pay any attention to that one either. You probably would, though, if it was bad for Biden.
So you didn't look at that link and see that the battleground states have third party candidates already on their ballots?
Or you don't understand that those are the states that matter?
Yes, and I also saw that the top 3rd party choices in the poll are not on the ballot in most battleground states.
So most people who chose 3rd party in the poll will end up voting for someone else.
So that poll is useless.
....
I mean. That's literally not true.
But I've already given you the sources that show that.
I led you to the water homie, I can't make you drink it.
RFK is on the ballot in CA, UT, NM, OK, MN, MI, and DE
West is on the ballot in OR, AK, CO, VT, and SC
If you are in the battleground states of WI, PA, GA, NV, NC, or AZ then neither one is an option.