this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2024
57 points (100.0% liked)
Socialism
2844 readers
39 users here now
Beehaw's community for socialists, communists, anarchists, and non-authoritarian leftists (this means anti-capitalists) of all stripes. A place for all leftist and labor news and discussion, as long as you're nice about it.
Non-socialists are welcome to come to learn, though it's hard to get to in-depth discussions if the community is constantly fighting over the basics. We ask that non-socialists please be respectful and try not to turn this into a "left vs right" debate forum by asking leading questions or by trying to draw others into a fight.
This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
It is unfortunate. People need to stop using the D word here.
Why would you want people to stop talking about disenfranchisement? States deciding to take the vote away from their citizens after they've been convicted is something we should absolutely be highlighting. You'll even notice there's a significant correlation between which states are consistently redder and which have greater rates of voter disenfranchisement.
Maybe what we need is clarification about what disenfranchisement is, because it's not just people deciding not to vote. It's people having their ability to vote taken away.
Agreed that we need to talk about this more. Say you get a ticket you can't pay because your car broke down or you couldn't miss work at your minimum wage job. You could be doing everything legally right and still have a warrant out for your arrest, get put through the "justice" system, and eventually lose your job, your livelihood, and be set up for recidivism. If you're charged with a felony, or are locked up, you cannot exercise your right to vote. It's so easy to be caught up in a cycle that systematically strips away your rights and ability to provide for yourself and your family.
Disenfranchisement is a broad and complex issue that is caused by policy choices and local/subjective policing of historically overburdened communities, like BIPOC/LGBTQ+/disabled peoples. I'm sure it's also much more involved than I can speak to. And don't get me started on how for-profit and private prisons everywhere essentially use slave labor to make money. With the Supreme Court effectively criminalizing homelessness, you're getting more inmate labor on the way. I believe inmates should have access to education and federal minimum wage jobs so they have incentive to get out and contribute to society, and aren't forced to start their lives over just to make ends meet. Especially for those that were locked up for low level crimes. It doesn't make sense to damn someone to hell for small crimes and never allow them to get back on their feet.