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What the title says. I think there is still a long way for that to happen but i've been hopeful. What do you think?

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[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And do what? Make a better product? The beauty of Capitalism is that consumers really are the final say on whether your product succeeds. You can make an app with as many addictive hooks as possible, but that doesn't make those users permanent. And any sabbotage by Reddit will only dig in our heels at this point.

[–] glockenspiel@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hear what you’re saying, but Lemmy was created to oppose the capitalist exploitation cycle. With Lemmy, we aren’t consumers or a product. Lemmy is actually firmly rooted in anti-capitalism and arose because capitalism destroys choice.

Capitalism isn’t necessary for innovation. It is just the private ownership of things. Spez didn’t make Reddit great, for example. Other people did. Spez is just a do-nothing owner who is now the mouth piece for bigger do-nothing owners looking to wring out maximum profit from unpaid laborers.

I’d argue that capitalism stifles innovation, which is why everyone agrees that you need competition. A market economy. And broad anti-trust regulations, since capitalism is inherently authoritarian since it is a top-down hierarchical structure. A free-ish market is what allowed us to innovate so quickly.

But Lemmy is outside of that since it isn’t driven by profit.

[–] CHINESEBOTTROLL@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People use "capitalism" in different ways. The person you responded to probably meant it as "free marked system", which Lemmy absolutely fits into. Often "capitalism" is used to mean "profit seeking system", which Lemmy doesn't fit into.

Both of these uses are common.

[–] hitmyspot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Capitalism provides an incentive to make money. It allows you to buy things or donthings. However sometimes the thing we want to do is socialise. So people code to make that happen. People run instances to make that happen. The incentive is community instead of money.

Capitalism still provides incentive for innovation. So does our need for interaction. I'm hoping that the decentralised nature and federisariinnmakeanthay possible for other projects. We could all start having our own foss servers in our homes that hold our photos, our social media, email and news. With no ads and no snooping. This could be the next phase of our internet connected lives.

[–] MrTulip@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If the fediverse starts gaining traction, you can bet the mega-corps will use every dirty trick they have to co-opt it or, if that fails, undermine it.

[–] d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Threads is already expected to be that answer. Mindless instagram folks won’t have a clue.

[–] AlternActive@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Threads is only slealing twitter's user space, which i can totally get behind. Fuck elon musk. Even if it benefits the lizardman.

[–] d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah I mean I HATE Facebook…. But I hate what musk did to Twitter and crypto more…

[–] d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Threads is already expected to be that answer. Mindless instagram folks won’t have a clue.