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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 33 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Does it really count as "lucid" if you enunciate your lies, fabrications, misrecollections about... everything?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

No. He was not lucid, just loud.

[–] Revonult@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For his voters, his lies and fabrications are the truth. They don't listen to fact checking because they are conditioned to see it as fake and a goverment ploy to fool them.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

True. But they were going to have the same criticism of Biden regardless.

It's part of the reason I didn't even watch. Looking over the polling, the debate didn't really change anyone's opinions on anything to any significant degree.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

No-one is going to switch sides, but this performance may affect turnout.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it has been long enough to have gathered enough data on that. Just watching it myself I could clearly see a low information voter seeing Trump as a more fit choice as Biden struggled to even form sentences :(

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

They did a lot of the pre-selection of people beforehand. The headline most places are running with is "flash poll says trump won", but if you actually read the conclusions, it's that "flash poll says trump won, more Republicans watched the debate by about a ten percent margin, and no one changed their opinions about fitness for office or who they're voting for".

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 8 points 4 months ago

It was a goddamn travesty that there was no fact checking by the ~~button pushers~~ moderators.

Everything was allowed to stand as fact. It was disgusting :(

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

Loud and lying every second word != lucid.