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There are numerous media players like
mpvthat can stream youtube. These instances are not only slow, they also sell their user's information. Edit piped also requires JavaScript to run.Edit2: I wont be replying further. As they all are just spamming same argument again and again.
JS? Oh no just like every other website it uses JavaScript
Piped requires JavaScript for everything. . This post was about piped not about invidious. ~~To avoid getting downvoted~~ Please do some research before posting.
Citation needed
that are not a part of the browser
I wish you a very [citation needed].
These instances are not much popular so there isn't much evidence regarding it. Nor you have any evidence that it doesn't.
and only one of us posted a claim without backing it up with proof.
I have evidence that some don't. I am personnaly part of an association running a public instance with no user data sold whatsoever.
Where? No one posted evidence in this thread.
But some do. You can never be sure about all of them do same. Also what if some instances are running modified version of it.
personally.
Of course you can never be sure. But you cannot be sure about any local player either. Even if it is libre software, it rely on trust. Or you would have to read every piece of software used. In the same way that some software are trustworthy enough to use, some hosts are too.
Sorry if I sound aggressive, I just try to be short <3 !
I've long wondered about this regarding alternate frontends for big sites in general, but especially about the youtube frontends like piped and invidious which must require substantial resources to operate (though sometimes they're serving the video data itself directly from google, sometimes they're actually proxying it too)... but, I've never seen any evidence of it. Have you?
In any case, many of the popular instances are running on Microsoft or Oracle clouds, and/or Clownflare, so, from a privacy standpoint it isn't really much different than Google. I use them occasionally in Tor Browser just because they're less likely to be blocking a Tor exit than youtube proper is.
Watching videos over tor is not possible.
sure it is, i do it all the time. sometimes i'll get a too-slow circuit and need to try another, but, it works on the first try more often than not.
I've seen no reason to believe any privacy frontend I've used has done this. However, even if you are concerned about this, Freetube is a more convenient option which can use its own local API similar to how Newpipe does it while still keeping a nice interface with subscription management and such.
That's exactly what I said.
You only mentioned newpipe and mpv...
...yes, but freetube is actually comparable to the featureset of newpipe, piped, or invidious.
You're approaching this as a confrontation when it isn't one. You listed two players which are not necessarily replacements for a desktop user who wants subscription management and such, so I provided one which does.