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Jacob Riis Beach hosts the day of body positivity and fun, in the city at the heart of the fat acceptance movement

Fat Beach Day events are springing up across the US in an effort to fight back against fat-phobia, reclaim safe spaces for the community and honor plus-size culture. Today, one of these celebrations is being held to coincide with Pride month at Jacob Riis Beach in New York, a location deeply ensconced in the city’s activism space.

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I don't really want to get into it, but, we have campaigns that actively target people who smoke and/or drink. Two other things that people can indulge in that can and will eventually lead to negative health effects and kill you, much like overeating will.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Again, that is not attacking the problem at the source. Unlike smoking and drinking, you have to eat to survive. And corporations have taken that necessity and twisted it so that people are not making healthy choices.

And there is still the problem of having the energy to cook when you're a wage slave.

No amount of "stop overeating and exercise" campaigns can solve those issues. You have to attack them at the source.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Unlike smoking and drinking, you have to eat to survive.

Except you don't need to stress eat or eat when you're bored. At some point you're eating over the calories required just for living. To act like what you're eating is the only problem is disingenuous.

More often its why your eating and how much.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Sure, you don't need to stress eat while you're bored. But eating is already a thing you do, it makes you feel good, and it's there.

Imagine if you actually had to smoke a cigarette 3 times a day. The smoke is a requirement for your body. It makes you feel good, but you can go to excess and it's bad for you. This is MUCH closer to food.

You HAVE to eat. You eat daily. Not doing so is a disorder. So you can't just not eat, you have to develop a healthy relationship with food. With this thing that tastes good, makes you feel good, and you have to do anyway. Well, that's okay. We can have a healthy relationship with it!

Oh no. You're sad. Something bad happened. You need something to help you out. Well, how about some food? It's usually pretty enjoyable. You eat every day anyway, so like... It's not a HUGE deal, surely, and you're fuckin SAD man. Fuck it, whole pizza it is! Let's get happy!

Rinse and repeat, because life is inevitably a big series of bad things (and good, but we're not focusing on those) happening. Now your emotional coping is tied to food. It's not as addictive as nicotine, but it is a requirement for life. It's a lot harder to change THAT than it is to just say "don't smoke." It's like going to a smoker and saying "smoke, but only 3 times a day."

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which is what they said in their comment.

"If we can attack the problem at the source..."

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

And the issue can be spun in many different ways, but it always comes back to a single simple source, overeating.

That is all there is to it. Not if you can cook or exercise. Not if you buy fancy feasts or a bag of carrots and dip. It is only about overeating.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Stress eating is a much smaller problem compared to the issues I was discussing- companies using science to make processed food very difficult to resist and many people finding it hard to get the energy- both physical and mental- to cook in this modern oligarchical world.

Also, if fat people are stress eating, body shaming them would make that worse. And my original point was about body shaming.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Exactly. We don't need to bully anyone smokers or fat people, but normalizing and "accepting" either is not an option. These people aren't just killing themselves, they are also heavily impacting our healthcare system.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io -1 points 4 months ago

Gotta eat to live. You can do without smoking or drinking. Big difference.