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the oh so well kept secret of the software and services (surrounding it) industry that people seem to think is worth paying money for.
Yet time after time these paid software companies produce the most vile awful, dysfunctional, and garbage software (and services) that have ever been created. While somehow a group of people who aren't being paid, and aren't doing this for any sort of reason other than "why not" manage to create the most functional software ever, while also managing to somehow catch the single biggest potential software vulnerability in this decade (other than wannacry) purely because ssh has slightly sus behaviors when running the infected payload.
Please stop doing web dev, it isn't real.
I worked at a large financial company that you've probably heard of. Unit tests were basically non-existent, code reviews were a joke, and I saw some of the worst code I've ever seen come from senior engineers.
Because writ large we are all under staffed and it we need to cut something it's QA.
Good.
Cheap.
Fast.
Businesses have shown time and time again they choose cheap and fast. Good is a problem for the future.
MVP baby!
yeah, checks out. Peak web dev right here.
I just wanted to take the time to thank you, personally.
you are welcome my friend, ignore the fact that i don't know fuckshit about web dev, let's just pretend i'm omniscient :)
There is not much to know.
apparently so.
Web dev solves a simple UI pattern kinda elegantly for rapid development. I don't disagree with where you're coming from but I think your last take away is a mischaracterization of why it's used.
i smell cope :)
Funny enough I work in the opposite end of the spectrum with embedded firmware. But even I can see the value of webdev.
i want to see the value in webdev, but the more i interact with websites and shit based on platforms like electron, the more i just want it to be fucking dead. It's such a useless shit hole.
Fun fact, the linux discord binary seems to have a particular issue where you can bring up the "electron menu" but for some reason the base version of electron discord is using has disabled the ability to remove the menu, so if you hit alt + f, h, t, e or some shit like that, i'm pulling these out of my ass for demonstration here, it brings up a menu that you literally can't remove.
But don't worry, because you actually can remove it you just have to bump it into fullscreen, which disables the menu, and then back out, where it'll still be disabled, because thankfully, it's too much of a shitfuck program to have any form of consistency
not to mention how unstable it is, how shitty it performs, and how ram hungry it is because it's literally a sandboxed chromium browser, which we call a "program"
So, let me guess. Web dev isn't "real" but Linux kernel dev is VERY real?
I mean, I don't take issue with what SEEMS like your base case: Capitalism is crap and money is a silly game we all play, but what I'm reading / understanding from your statement is that the millions of people sending E-mail, writing documents, and managing spreasheets using web based applications aren't doing "real" work as well?
Not arguing, just desperately struggling to understand where you're coming from and what you're trying to say in concrete terms.
linux kernel dev is wild, have you ever seen the mailing list when linus shows up?
To be clear, i'm mostly shitposting, it's not that serious. But also, web dev produces the most routinely garbage crap and frankly unusable code half of the time, with the other half of the time being moderately usable. There is no good to come from this industry for quite some time.