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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Are you old enough to remember how every single mainstream journalist promoted the Iraq war? (no, "maybe the war could be executed more competently" is still supporting the war) How about Libya?

Isn't it funny how the mainstream media just happens to align with the state department every on every single issue?

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

are you old enough to remember tank man?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm old enough to have seen the video of him having a convo with the commander of the lead tank, and then leaving the situation unharmed.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you have any evidence that the man was "disappeared" or are you just projecting how your own country would have handled the situation onto China?

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's a well known fact.
go ahead and type the words Tiananmen Square without fear of reprisal.
and add Winnie the Pooh for good measure

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

If it is a well known fact you can cite it easily, lmao

[–] Frokke@lemmings.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Old enough to remember there were lots opposing it as well. Just.like the current Gaza war. Just like they have criticised immigration policies, or approved them. Same with coal, same with the EPA neutering, same with the oil spills in the gulf. Same with the lack of proper aid and support when the lowlands flooded.

Just because you ignore it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I'd be happy to adjust my opinion, should you provide similar journalism from china, about china.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Old enough to remember there were lots opposing it as well. Just.like the current Gaza war.

Except none of them meaningfully oppose the gaza war. The closest thing to criticism you'll hear from a mainstream source is how Netanyahu personally isn't carrying out the war out humanely enough. Note that this is not actually opposition to the war, since it just calls for a return to the state of slow ethnic cleansing that spawned the war. They oppose the way and rate the settler colonialist ethnostate carries out ethnic cleansing, not the settler colonialist ethnostate whose national project requires ethnic cleansing.

Just as in the Iraq war, nobody was saying "This is bad, and we should leave now, there's a million people protesting it outside" until like 2006, when the plans to leave were already drawn up (a schedule Obama maintained).

There was a million "The war is good, but it's being done poorly" and later on "The war is bad, but we're here and have to carry it out more competently", but the idea of not pursuing the war was so toxic, republicans would accuse democrats of wanting to "cut and run" (in the same way they accuse democrats of being insufficiently supportive of Israel, despite literally going around congress to keep the weapons flowing).