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[–] mmus@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but Google has no control over any forks of Chromium. They can’t control Edge, or Brave, or Vivaldi

Sorry but that's not how it goes, Google can exert control on forks by increasing the difficulty of maintaining changes. The forks have a vested interest in staying compatible with upstream to benefit from Chromium changes over time, which unfortunately means they avoid making any deep changes to the code. None of the Chromium forks are hard ones, unlike Chromium itself which was a hardfork of Apple's webkit, which in turn was a hard fork off KDE's KHTML.

Also, Mozilla should DEFINITELY NOT adopt Chromium. We need diversity in web browsers, the idea is that by having different user agents we give the user more bargain power over how they want to browse the web. Remember, Google, Microsoft and Apple are NOT your friends, all they want is to ransack everything and increase their shareholder values. If they can turn the web proprietary and fully locked down, they will.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago

None of the Chromium forks are hard ones

For now. If Firefox became a Chromium fork, ideally it would stay that way. But if Google did make things too hard in the way you describe, then I would suggest Firefox, Brave, Vivaldi, etc. should share a sort of medium-hard fork of Chromium. Keep their own track with features they need, but keep it close enough that the basic rendering engine can still be merged in from work Google does.

We need diversity in web browsers

That's an ideological position. I don't agree that there's any inherent value in the underlying browser engine being diverse. If anything, I think it's useful for it to be consistent and predictable.

As I write this, I'm talking myself into a slightly different position. Maybe they don't need to fork Chromium, but it would be valuable to dump Gecko in favour of Blink. I don't actually know what Chromium gets you besides Blink (and V8, which I lump together with Blink because for the same reasons, I think it would make sense to unify around). Stick with Blink & V8 to let Google to the work on the rendering side (while still being able to contribute back yourself where necessary), while maintaining your own browser and extension ecosystem. So web developers get a single platform to develop against, users get the full experience of any site they visit regardless of their browser, and Mozilla can maximally utilise their development resources in building and maintaining features that differentiate them.