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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The money is in the users not selling the hardware. As long as Playstation has hundreds of million daily users they will continue to make insane profit. The people will move up a generation eventually.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think what we're seeing is that people aren't choosing to move up a generation.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yea because ps4 is still getting all the releases and ps5 is really expensive. I have friends who still play on ps4 and I went to their house and they're playing games on like 20fps having a blast. It was kinda wholesome I just wish they weren't getting scammed by Sony and chose pc so they could play games that actually run on their hardware.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Given how much PC has grown in the same time, statistically, they are moving to PC.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Apparently not enough, because Sony focuses on PC more than ever.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Focusing on PC more than ever isn't exactly a high bar. Consoles (maybe not xbox) are still doing extremely well and consoles are more popular than PC by quite a big margin. I expect Sony and Nintendo to continue to grow their userbase even if the sales on the latest platform drop a bit.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

consoles are more popular than PC by quite a big margin.

How do you measure this? Steam alone has 130 to 150 million active users, more than Switch customers at a whole. And that does not even include some of the most popular PC games at all. I also expect PC user base to grow, it has more potential than consoles.

So yes, its a big deal for companies like Sony to open up this big to PC and to be that successful. They don't even need to sell a console to sell games. Off course consoles will remain popular and for good reason. But most popular games are mulitsystem games and not specific to consoles anyway. In my opinion it is remarkable how much Sony focuses on PC now. I hope they keep doing it; its only beneficial for the players, the publishers and for Sony.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The stats I could find compared pc and current and last gen consoles so ps4 and ps5 era and the split was basically 50/50. But if you think about it that's not a fair comparison because pc has people who running on hardware worse than a ps3.

I mostly take issue with the smug tone of the article acting like it's over for consoles just because they didn't meet expectations and decided to bring some games to pc. Consoles are still extremely popular and far more powerful than the average pc according to steam hardware survey. They will still be around and successful no doubt about it.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

that's not a fair comparison because pc has people who running on hardware worse than a ps3.

This is a benefit of using PC, not a downside. Unlike consoles, you aren't forced to upgrade every few years and you actually have the ability to change graphics settings. Even if you want to upgrade your PC, you don't need to get an entirely new build.

That's also missing the fact that plenty of people don't need or want to play the latest AAA title.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

I mostly take issue with the smug tone of the article acting like it’s over for consoles just because they didn’t meet expectations and decided to bring some games to pc. Consoles are still extremely popular and far more powerful than the average pc according to steam hardware survey. They will still be around and successful no doubt about it.

I agree with you here. These articles are stupid telling people it would be over for consoles. It's just clickbait or they are uninformed. Maybe besides your point that the "average pc" is that weak as you say. Most are at a level of PS4 or stronger. But that is not all you need to compare if you want to an analysis. This topic is extremely complicated. You can't just take the average. There are far more PC users than console players. Its like taking the Game Boy into account and saying that the average game consoles is weak. That's not the full story.

In example most monthly active users on consoles play games that could be played on a potato PC or last gen consoles too and these people probably do not buy newest games. Similar to the situation on PC.