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Are you a 'tankie' (lemmy.ml)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Where did they say they support authoritarianism?

[–] hash0772@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If we ignored everything they said before because they did supposition, they literally said "Stalin rules". What part of that doesn't scream authoritarianism?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Seems more intentionally inflamatory than anything else, considering they literally told you what they wanted before that line.

What do you believe Tankies actually desire?

[–] hash0772@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes or their allies. -- Wikipedia
I use the label "tankie" on people who support dictators like Stalin and Xi Jinping and actively push for an authoritarian state. Not sure if them putting "Stalin rules, by the way. ✊" was not serious and/or intentionally inflamatory.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They don't count as a tankie then, they quite plainly told you they wanted a democratically controlled state. Or is democracy authoritarian, in your view?

[–] hash0772@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nope. As I said, not sure if them putting “Stalin rules, by the way. ✊” was not serious and/or intentionally inflammatory.
If they used it seriously, as in supporting Stalin and his acts, don't they still count as a tankie?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

They never said they supported authoritarianism, they claim to support democracy.

As for Stalin support, I believe it's being intentionally inflamatory and framed against support for a democratic state precisely to challenge the reader's assumptions about how the USSR actually functioned. I don't take it as saying "yes, Stalin absolutely should have recriminalized homosexuality" or anything, but we can't know beyond what they have stated.