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This fails to mention the terrorist was a muslim.
It also fails to mention that the organising group is far right. So maybe it evens out?
I mean, the officer was not killed by a protestor. If you read the title it seems that it was the group's fault
Not to take any blame away from the terrorist, but this is what the organisers hope for.
And Putin is jumping with joy. Anything that divide us is good for him. Wouldn't surprise me if Russia funded the organisers.
The german right wing Party AFD have or at least had connections and i think some payment with russia. Some oft thr AFD folks even got asked to come to russia as "democratic experts" for the last election.. Such a fucked up party
And people still vote for them. Infuriating.
Sounds like victim blaming to me. You should be able to protest without worrying about a terrorist attack.
Not if it's Nazis doing the protesting.
What if its not-nazis protesting nazis?
What if your grandma was a bicycle?
Hardly, Russia is pro-Islam - they've met Hamas and are working with Iran.
They are part of the Islamic Axis of evil.
Russia isn't pro Islam. Russia is funding everything that could cause trouble for the west. Actually it wouldn't surprise me if Russia funded both sides just to create conflict.
Russia funding the far right is well established.
They are so pro-islam that they in fact welcome the terror attack in Moscow a few weeks back - though frankly Putin probably does
No.
They mentioned a possible Islamist motive. Which is an important distinction to make because the Westboro Baptist Church doing something is not the same as some random Christian doing something.
Also, you're reading France24. Sticking with state media, but this time German, DW has more:
I know he was a Muslim because otherwise he would have been called "mentally ill" rather than a terrorist.
At least they made sure to highlight the rally is anti-muslim. It's just funny following the reporting on the incident so far, as everyone saw the video, how obvious is the bias and tiptoeing around the fact that this was a religiously motivated attack against "anti-islam" activists. But due to the mental gymnastic that does not fit the narrative of doctors and engineers migrants.
The people the guy attacked were Nazis. They are not anti-Islam activists, they are Nazis. This is not an anti-Muslim rally, this is a Nazi rally.
Violence is always wrong, and so is your dogwhistling.
Shtop right there, do you have a loicense for that gigantic hyperbolic lie sir? Like serious define your view of "Nazism" for me, if I want to stretch beyond a national movement, I would say probably islamophobic or xenophobic, but then again that says nothing much, but you know what, islamophibia would have saved that cop's life in retrospect.
Because they are literally anti-Nazis. Funnily enough, they see Islam as Nazism due to Sharia being close to a lot of tenant of Islam (superiority, discrimination, etc ...), and their activity was mainly protesting anti-jihad islamization. So how is this bad again? Explain this to an ex-muslim please. Luckily there are videos showing clearly what happened so even if you want to still live in denial at least no one will believe your delusional take hopefully, and equating killing someone and stabbing with dogwhisling is absolutely nuts. I would prefer to be dogwhistled any day over getting stabbed.
I only see a lot of mental gymnastics to make it sound like Michael Stürzenberger would be somehow a good guy? He is a convicted extremist e.g. for incitement to hatred, who was under surveillance for plotting to overthrow democracy for many many years. He held up pictures of Goebbels among other things.
The way you phrase it is so biased to make the guy look like he's the worst evil person ever. So I looked him up, and here is what I gathered:
So the guy's experience, and especially the recent incident, just confirm what he's preaching, Islam preaches violence against those who criticise it, and is incompatible with western culture and if it grows would present a threat to Germany. Christianity is the largest religion in Germany, yet, you rarely ever hear about violent attacks against its critics. There sure must be a reason, no? And before you jump on the "muh racism bandwagon", skin color has nothing to do with it. It's its religious culture of death, because in Islam, it's an honor to die fighting the kuffar for your Allah, so you can get a better placement in heaven and of course those 72 houris. Germany failed at assimilating lots of refugees that came in the last 10 years, and it's effects are showing.
Below his wikipedia:
In May 2013, Stürzenberger was acquitted for the charge of having shown a poster with an image and quote of Heinrich Himmler at a demonstration to prove the similarity between Nazism and Islam.[31] He was sentenced to a fine of 800 euros in July 2013 for insulting a police officer by telling him to "Ach, leck mich doch am Arsch",[32] and to 2,500 euros in 2014 for calling Islam a "cancer" on the Politically Incorrect blog, for which he was acquitted in 2017.[33] He was sentenced to a four months conditional prison sentence and 960 euros in 2015 for saying that all Muslims are potential terrorists at a Pegida rally,[34] and to a suspended sentence of half a year in prison in November 2017 for sharing a photo on Facebook of a ranking Nazi shaking hands with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Amin al-Husseini.[35] In December 2017 he was sentenced to a fine of 2,400 euros for incitement to hatred, after he spoke of an "invasion" from the Islamic world at a Pegida event in 2015.[36]
Oh so they advocate for another holocaust? Somehow I doubt theyre actually nazis. Methinks this is another case of anyone right of Stalin is considered a nazi.
Yes they are Nazis and the Nazis in Germany have met in secret to plot deporting people to Africa that are not German enough, this includes German citizens whose blood is not pure enough according to their definition.
I honestly don’t understand this comment section. The leader of these people is a convicted extremist who was under surveillance for many many years. He is a nazi and wants to overthrow democracy.
On the other hand there was a Muslim bystander trying to stop the guy, a Muslim police officer stopping the guy and a Muslim paramedic treating the attacked. I wonder why you don’t care about that being mentioned.
If youre so not German to the point you stab people, maybe you should be deported for not being german enough.
And there you go, this is the guy who received 60 upvotes for his comment about wanting to emphasize that the attacker was Muslim.
I feel like not wanting to be stabbed is reasonable. Do you not?
The guys he stabbed want to deport him to afghanistan (they want to send all migrants back to where they came from), i'd want to stab anyone who tried to send me to afghanistan. I don't agree with the stabbing, but i think it sort of makes sense from a general self defense perspective.
Right, so if I understand you correctly, Germans don't stab people. What do we do to kill someone then? Gas them or start a world war? The offender ought to really used Zyklon B
I think the word "terrorist" is not a good word here. It was a mentally ill individual with an unknown motive.
Id argue that almost every terrorist is mentally ill.
He was a muslim who attacked an anti-islamic rally. Seems like a pretty clear motive to me.
Because the reasons are the last thing you should report on in a terrorist attack?
Getting their word out is literally the entire reason they did a terrorism, publicizing that info is literally assisting the terrorists.
As far as responsible reporting should be concerned, all terrorists are of the same cloth, scum, and they can all die mad together about all being seen as the same.
Its a very specific cloth theyre cut from, and that cloth has made it clear what the plan is. I feel like noting its muslim is part of reporting the news.
The way it reads now is victim blaming.