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Are lots of websites really going downhill and/or closing or does it just seem like it to me? (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by Catch42@kbin.social to c/tech@kbin.social

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Like many people I'm here because of reddit going to shit. Twitter has increasingly been shit. gycat is shutting down in September. To me it seems like lots of bastions of social media are crumpling, but as a previous active reddit user, I've been personally effected. Is this just a frequency illusion or has something changed in the world that has changed the business case of these sites?

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[–] CaptainPatent@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For sure... Non-decentralized social media has value created by the immense number of connections and content created.

It also has the risk of abusing those connections and making the network less valuable by a centralized decision to clog it with paid content... Which alienates users and makes the experience less efficient.

Facebook did it, reddit is doing it, Twitter is trying to do it. The move is almost inevitable.

Decentralize it and it takes almost all potential greed out of the equation so the network stays most valuable to users.

[–] apemint@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This makes me wonder whether decentralized social media is actually immune to enshittification, or will it just take a different form we can't even imagine at this moment in time.

[–] vanilla@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

There is nothing too complex for the ingenuity of advertisers to corrupt eventually.

[–] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Decentralized social media needs the users to understand the importance of keeping it free from corporate interests.
This fediverse is a version of the commons, and it's up to each of us to acknowledge this in order to keep it that way.

[–] djgb@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The costs of the servers will crush a lot of instances. I can't imagine the hosting costs the main kbin and lemmy instances have right now, and it'll only go up as people join in. I think we'll see server managers start asking for donations to cover the costs sooner and frequently. And when people don't donate, they'll have to resort to ads. And if an instance is really popular but barely afloat, some big fish comes along and offers to buy it from them for a decent price. Classic strategy.
Meta may say it wants to start its own instance, but just wait until they see how most instances have refused to federate with them and they'll be sniffing around one of the popular instances trying to buy or offering a nice package to federate. By then, users will be established and not leave immediately.