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What is the point of cruel and deadly border policies if employers could just be penalized for hiring unauthorized labor all along? (lemmy.crimedad.work)

submitted 5 months ago by CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

When they say illegals are taking all the jobs, they mean it's hard to get correct and appropriate pay for their labour because these desperate people will accept much less, which brings down the typical pay for that job. The left blame the employer and the system, the right blame the people accepting those conditions.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And the employers are actually already breaking the law for employing such people. It shouldn't be going beyond that, and yet we never see politicians making that point, because it's apparently a no-no to call out corporations for their actions at this point in American history.

Edit: and also, at least in the case of who I was talking about, they'd never suggest wages were too low across the board. They're secure in their scapegoat. We aren't really disagreeing, I don't think, but this issue runs deeper because there are ideologies at play that do not adhere to logic.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The left blame the employer and the system, the right blame the people accepting those conditions.

The Left punches up. The Right punches down.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The left expect progress to occur by changing the system, the right expect progress to occur by individuals changing themselves

[–] inconspicuouscolon@lemy.lol 2 points 5 months ago

That's a pretty good way of putting it