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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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How Many Charging Stations Would We Need to Totally Replace Gas Stations? (www.wired.com)
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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Now lets build those things and expand the grid without emitting a shit ton of co2 and a bunch of toxic shit. Maybe it’s time to rethink that whole „car” idea.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

If you just burned fossil fuel to generate electricity instead of using gas or diesel, you would still have a net reduction in emissions simply due to the net efficiency difference between large power generators and ICEs. Also, much of that pollution wouldn't be where as many people are living, which would have health benefits. All this ignores cleaner power generation options.

Sure non-car options are superior where they're feasible and should definitely be looked at. But for a lot of places and people, that isn't an option now, and won't be for another 10 years. So maybe we should think about ways to get there without literally setting the world on fire.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I work 23 miles from where I live. How would you suggest I get there without a car?

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Dont. Work somewhere closer like we did before cars existed.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol I don't know what weird reality you live in but it ain't this one. The homes close enough to my job are literally 5x the price of the one I live now.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Another artifact produced by the stupid system we live in that you use as an argument for proliferation of the system.

Fixing climate change would require us rethinking how we live in general, the housing and transportation is just a tiny aspect of that.

I know it’s basically unimaginable right now, but the industrial revolution happened less than 300 years ago and the society then was also unimaginable to us today. We need to backtrack a lot of choices we made since then because it turns out the world does not really have infinite resources. And yes, we can also do nothing at all or fund carbon capture projects or other bullshit until the earth will no longer sustain us. We’ll end up in a different civilization either way, but one will be a bit more drastic.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

No. Fuck no. Hard no. I refuse to live packed in like rats.