They used to be, but the current Republican party explicitly rejects liberalism. They don't follow any liberal ideas, even on capitalism and free markets. They're willing to bend any principle for power. They're fascists.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure and the sky is green.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Look up "liberalism", before you ridicule yourself in front of everyone.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise." How the fuck does that describe the GOP?? I mean yeah I get the argument relative to economics, but on the civil rights side of things no.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They do advocate for all of these things for white christians.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol exactly!

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah... Liberals can be racists, you know?

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Oh I completely agree with you, I'm a more libertarian kind of socialist myself so I definitely don't think liberalism is the answer. I also think that's is disingenuous, and really discrediting to leftists as a whole, when people try to say that the GOP is liberal. They're definitely not; on almost any social issue they are firmly opposed to the liberal position on civil rights, freedom of association, etc etc.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, they did turn into fascists in the last few decades... As liberals tend to do.

But yeah, I was a bit facecious with someone who probably didn't really know their politics too well. You got me.

Username checks out, btw. 🖤❤️

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Solidarity forever! 🌹

[–] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it's disingenuous to leftists to call liberals leftist. Liberals are right wing and always have been.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I didn't mean to imply that liberals are leftists, but rather that the GOP isn't liberal other than economically.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That'a a new one

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, [consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

Wikipedia agrees with me

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It's a United States thing. They use the term liberal to refer to social liberalism whereas you're referring to neoliberalism.

Edit: On second glance, your Wikipedia link is to straight liberalism, which includes things the Republican party doesn't support, like secularism. So who knows.

[–] 01101000_01101001@mander.xyz 8 points 5 months ago

Originally, america was secular. Then the 1950s happened.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 months ago

which includes things the Republican party doesn't support, like secularism.

Yeah, saw that, too. They are still liberals (as in: support neoliberal policies), but with christo-fascist tendencies. The article states that these points are contended right dow, though.

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Relative to much of the world yes.

In terms of economics and neoliberalism mostly.

You're more right than wrong.

In terms of social liberalism, the differences between the two parties are more noticeable.

This is because structural politics is defined by undemocratic means, interests, and forces.

So we vote on more superficial aspects, such as the culture war and social rights.

Which can be important, but most of the time aren't the real meat of the world's problems.