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Is the Fight Against Climate Change Losing Momentum? Some financial institutions are backing away from emission pledges. (www.newyorker.com)
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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Even with a business to make money, how do they not understand that if humanity does not thrive, they stop making money? I can't wrap my head around this.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It helps if you're a sociopath. Bonus points if your vision of the future begins and ends with the next quarter's bonus targets.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago

Also bonus points if everyone else is behaving the same way, and extra bonus points if thinking and acting on climate change is hard and depressing.

Basically the nature of the problem is precisely the sort of thing humanity is collectively very bad at (think of the pandemic, which IMO didn't need to happen and we're lucky biomedical science was there to save us with vaccines). We're especially bad at it in this neoliberal culture too.

Basically we're embarrassing ourselves in front of future generations like all of the atrocious dumb shit that's happened in the past.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 7 points 7 months ago

Because they literally cannot see further than next quarter.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It’s playing the odds. Can I make enough money to keep me comfortable?

Nobody (with money) cares if the world spontaneously catches fire in 200 years. It literally won’t affect them.

Can “I” (with money) make enough to mitigate the results of climate change before everyone else (without money) suffers from it?

How much money is that? Well “I” don’t know, I better make as much as possible. Hopefully I can make money faster than the world burns.

[–] hotelbravo722@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago

It’s because of how they are financed and evaluated. Their investors/financiers expect a constant return on investment as well as yearly financial growth to justify their high stock values. It doesn’t matter if they have big enough or are already producing max profit. Gotta keep growing to match inflation which is also tied to growth. All powering a runaway train in which there is no conductor.